re: Will North Korea ever be liberated?

I know frickall, so my opinion is of little value, but I believe the liberation would have to come from within as a military coup. China, US, and SK don't want to deal with the mess of a war. SK is essentially staring down the barrel of untold numbers of artillery, and the US and China don't see an economic incentive to liberate.

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China don't see an economic incentive to liberate.

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China would have a ton more port cities and a ton more resources. They would have taken it years ago if it was called South China. Its not, its called North Korea and China knows the backlash would be bad internationally if they claimed Korean land as theirs.

South Korea is very heavily populated. Even a handful of successful missile strikes from the North could kill millions. Thats the issue. They would misfire or miss a large percentage of strikes, but it only takes a few.

It will never be finished in time, the world's worst hotel.

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Your gasbagging in this thread is hilarious but then you say this

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Oh my bad, I'd hate to have an actual discussion on a fricking discussion board.

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How little do you know about their relationship? The only reason China "supports" NK is because they don't want a massive influx of refugees. This is also why SKorea doesn't stroke the fires. NK refugees find it nearly impossible to assimilate into South Korean or Chinese culture. Being an economic ally does not equal being an ally that you will help defend with your troops. You think Russia wants North Korea to have a nuclear weapon? Despite all the rhetoric between Putin and Obama do you really believe Russia gains more economically from North Korea than they do from the US? Oh yeah, China really wants to get into a war that might drag the US in, it's not like China and the US are economic partners or anything

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First of all, I wasn't referring to Russian and/or Chinese support in terms of either of those countries committing actual troops to a conflict. There are much more effective means of support.

Secondly, we're talking about the future here. The current state of Sino-US and Russian-US relations is irrelevant, the entire global political climate can change in a heartbeat.

China has the world's largest population, second largest economy, and is the US' biggest creditor. As their need for oil and other natural resources continues to grow with its population, so too will their aggressiveness on the world stage.

Imagine if the US economy collapsed and the Yuan became the world standard and reserve currency, which would in turn make China the world's only superpower? You think they wouldn't try to expand and create more Socialist states, just as the Soviet Union had done?

I could definitely see political/economic turmoil in the future lead to proxy wars in Korea and and other parts of Asia.

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Does NK and Iran have any sort of pact?

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I don't know if they have an official "pact" or anything but they do maintain diplomatic relations. They also deal with Cuba, Venezuela, and the like.

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Go watch the PBS Frontline done recently about life in North Korea under Kim Jon Un.

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Link if you have one?

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Okay. So the underfed and under-equipped North Korean army will win a war without man power from China or Russia

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Against the US? No.
Against S. Korea? Yes

The DPRK has the capability to annihilate S. Korea with the push of a button.

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Like what, giving NK a nuke?

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Missile technology, money, oil, food, arms, planes, ships, etc.; the same thing the USSR did the first go-round.

China's political influence alone could keep the US out of a North/South conflict. If DPRK used a nuclear weapon against S. Korea we would stay out of it, we're not going to have WWIII because of a conflict on the Korean Peninsula.

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China's economy collapses if this happens

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I disagree. Their economy would suffer greatly but would rebound quicker than everyone else.

It's already happened, when the British Sterling was replaced by the US Dollar in the late-'70s and early-'80s; which ultimately lead to the decolonization and fall of the British Empire and their loss of status as a world superpower.