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re: Will Bloodwork Detect Cancer?

Posted on 2/16/15 at 7:27 pm to
Posted by lsucoonass
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 7:27 pm to
Usually a really low white blood cell count would caution your provider to order more specific tests for possible cancer
Posted by fishfighter
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 7:35 pm to
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At what age should one start getting colonoscopies? And frequency?



At 40, BUT, if your family has a high risk, then before 30. I have a niece that is 35 and fighting for her life from colon cancer. Also had a brother that died at 40 with it.

Oh, due to a high rate of colon cancer that runs in my family, I'm checked once a year. And yes, they find polyps every time. Had a bad one and had to go back in for another check two weeks later.
This post was edited on 2/16/15 at 7:39 pm
Posted by nelatf
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 7:36 pm to
Damn - will discuss this with doctor at next checkup - thanks
Posted by CharlesLSU
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 7:37 pm to
Wrong

LINK

It's 50 unless you are black or have a family history.
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 7:38 pm to
There is a tumor marker called CEA that can be detected by a simple blood test. It is elevated in certain cancers of the lungs, liver, colon and breast and a few more I can't remember. It isn't elevated in every case. It is used to monitor the progression of cancer for treatment purposes although some drs don't use it . It can indicate progression on a cellular level before symptoms appear in patient. There are other tumor markers more specific for individual cancers like CA-125 for uterine, CA-27-29 for breast, PSA for prostate, and others. A CBC (complete blood count) is a simple test that is run on a wellness check. It can indicate blood cancers like CLL. Also a chemistry panel can detect increases in organ enzymes that might indicate disease. Hope this helps.
This post was edited on 2/16/15 at 7:45 pm
Posted by Dick Leverage
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 7:49 pm to
If no family history....around 45-50

If family history....around 40



On the OP topic. I have battled Stage IV Diffuse Large B Cell Lymphoma twice in the last 4 years. I grew concerned before the first diagnosis after a 2cm knot formed under my right jaw. No pain or tenderness. I thought it was an infection because I recently had a temporary crown come off. I went to my dentist who was puzzled. She referred me to an ENT who ordered a CT scan. It was determined to be a mass, however, he thought it looked benign in nature. Nevertheless, it had to be excised for biopsy.

The biopsy was inconclusive because 90% of the growth was necrotic tissue. The remaining viable portion showed high concentrations of protein C-24 which is typical for non-hodgkins Lymphoma. Just to small of a sample size to make a definitive diagnosis. They sent it to The Mayp Clinic to get a 2nd opinion. Their conclusion was the same.....inconclusive.

They basically told me to treat it as if I had cancer and to immediately see an Oncologist. Three days later, a had a bone marrow biopsy, a spinal tap, a Pet/CT scan and blood work. I had three more blood samples taken over the next 2 weeks as we waited for all the results.

After two weeks, I was told nothing showed positive for cancer. I was relieved....until a month later, another knot formed. Went through the excision process again but it was 100% positive.

Point being that I clearly had a Lymphoma a month earlier but none of the tests, including blood work, showed positive. I think the initial surgery and excision made those cancer cells start kicking into overdrive and one month later it had spread pretty rapidly throughout my neck, pulmonary and tracheal areas.
Posted by Cadello
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 8:00 pm to
Yes
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 8:14 pm to
I remember a thread a few years ago in here about some young kid developed a cheap test to detect cancer. It was like 99% accurate but haven't heard anything come of it. I wonder if it's stil in development stage
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 8:50 pm to
Probably talking about the kid that claimed to develop a screening test for pancreatic cancer. His claims haven't ever been published in peer reviewed journals and there are a lot of questions regarding his conclusions, especially the sensitivity. Still awesome that he put in the work he did at 15, but the protein he looked at hasn't ever been found to be more useful than CA-19-9 and that is for treatment follow-up rather than general screening.
Posted by Pepe Lepew
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 8:51 pm to
quote:

Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Blood cancers would probably show up. Leukemia, for example. Hodgkin's lymphoma as well. Not sure about other cancers.



My Hodgkin's did not show up with blood work !!!!
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34088 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 8:55 pm to
I have to go every 2 months for blood tests as follow up from Testicular cancer, but they are specifically looking for tumor markers.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30477 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:03 pm to
We had a researcher at the university I work at working on a home cancer test kit. I believe he left the university a while back. Don't know the status of his research or what types of cancer detection.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

Probably talking about the kid that claimed to develop a screening test for pancreatic cancer. His claims haven't ever been published in peer reviewed journals and there are a lot of questions regarding his conclusions, especially the sensitivity. Still awesome that he put in the work he did at 15, but the protein he looked at hasn't ever been found to be more useful than CA-19-9 and that is for treatment follow-up rather than general screening.


That's him, thanks for the response.
Posted by stone13
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2005
90 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:10 pm to
PSA is not 100% but is the best test outside of a DRE. The Lake uses to and still may give free test when donating blood. I did this for severa years and saw the numbers climbing. To shorten story I was a positve and had treatment. You may get false positives but it can show trends.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15388 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:17 pm to
See a couple of answers, but neither addressed frequency. If no family Hx, other risk factors, and your first one (at 50) is normal, you get them every 10. Depending on what is found, could be as frequently as in a year, but usually 3-5 if it's abnormal.


ETA to fix a stupid format
This post was edited on 2/16/15 at 9:34 pm
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:23 pm to
Since we're talking cancer, any idea what percentage of smokeless tobacco users develop oral malignancies? Avg time having used the stuff until development? Don't thy have high rate of metastasis?
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15388 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:37 pm to
I don't have those stats. They'd be easy to google. That's not me saying I'm not interested or for you to find them yourself, but the answers I find won't be any better than the ones you do on frequency. Most oral cancers seen in smokeless tobacco users are only seen with tobacco- they're very rare in non-imbibers. As far as metastasis, there's tons of lymphatic drainage of the area, and I believe many wind up with radical neck dissections to stop lymphatic spread (metastasis). That's a wild procedure. Basically anything that's in between your shoulders and head that doesn't keep you alive or make your head move gets cut out.

I don't know time of onset from first use. Prolonged use increases chances. It's one of those rather impossible questions to answer, because there are very few people who dip heavily for 30 years, quit, then develop cancer to study. Usually they dip for 30 years, develop cancer, then quit.
Posted by johnnyrocket
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Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 9:32 pm to
I am in remission which I had both a luekemia when I was younger and a non Hopkins lymphoma when I was an adult.

The cancer yes they found it by blood test or maybe it was the softball size tumor that was in my stomach that sounded like a brick when you hit it. I know when I did my follow up while doing chemo you could see my wbc count get back in line.
My cancer was basically the bacteria in the wbc would keep the cell from dieing after it fought off an infection. When wbc would not die it formed tumors.

luekemia I don't know due to typically its your wbc not having bacteria to fight off infections.
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