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re: Why would a tour company not want a big group to have tents on the Appalachian Trail?

Posted on 10/1/19 at 6:33 am to
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 6:33 am to
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she is 78 lbs and 13 years old


This and 80lb boys...sheesh.

My 13 yr old son is 126 lbs and is skinny AF. Too skinny.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 6:48 am to
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My 13 yr old son is 126 lbs and is skinny AF. Too skinny.


How tall is he? We can turn this thread into another BMI discussion!
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 6:56 am to
5’ 10-3/4” when they measured last Monday at the Dr.s, my wife said he was slouching a bit though. Made it through, mostly, 4 games of 7th grade football before separating his shoulder and probably breaking his clavicle.
Posted by TheOtherSide
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2016
348 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 8:25 am to
Just some suggestions:

1. Go to Wal Mart or wherever and by a package or roll of Moleskin. Not the padded kind unless someone here says that it is preferable. Pre-cut some of it, but send all of it along with the campers. It can be used on heels or other areas of the feet to prevent blisters or can be use after the fact in necessary. The modern adhesive does not hold very well. The 70s version almost required pliers to remove it.

2. More than one pair of good socks designed for hiking or running. It depends on the shoes. Shoes should not be brand new. The kids will get blisters and holes in/on their heels. I have an unusable (dried out) pair of hiking boots (Vasque) from 45 years ago with holes in the back of the inner side of the boot. My heels had holes too.

3. Chewable Benedryl. Get permission from the adult leaders to take it along on the trip. It can be used for bee stings, poison ivy or whatever allergic reaction might occur. Someone else might have a better suggestion.

4. Buy the lightest most compressible (small) sleeping bag that you can afford that is rated for the temperatures that they will be encountering. It should be functional when wet too.

Tangent alert! Old man story below. Yes. One of those guys:

Back in the late 70s there was a guy named Mike who worked at the very old Backpacker in Baton Rouge that was located a half block from Government Street. He and a friend went to Smokey Mountains National Park for a backpacking trip and took snowshoes. Everyone they encountered thought that they were idiots. They ended up leading quite a few people to safety when there was a freak snow storm (yes in the Smokies) and other hikers (maybe tourists) got stranded. They were around the Clingmans Dome area.

In other words, you can be over prepared, but sometimes it pays off.

Go to your nearest outfitter (Backpacker in Baton Rouge) and ask for advice from an adult if there is one around. The younger workers are very smart and helpful too. Try to find someone who guides youth backpacking trips to seek suggestions.

5. LED flashlight and glowsticks for your kid. Just let them know that many or most night creatures are attracted to light. Bats might be the exception.

6. The adult guides should already know to string/rope way up between trees all packs, food, scented items, etc. Bears, mice, pack rats, raccoons, etc. love what is inside the packs and will do almost anything to get to them including diving from a high tree location to get to a pack. The bears will rip a pack open.


Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
19280 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 8:33 am to
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Check this out: LINK not sure it answers your question, but helpful nonetheless



Sooo many regulations now that it takes the fun out of just heading out and camping in these National Parks.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
39508 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 8:37 am to
Where is it at on the trail? In several sections, including the smokies, section hikers have to stay in the shelter unless it's already full when they arrive.

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because they won't be hiking or camping near water sources


find this very hard to believe on the AT. It sounds like the tour company isn't familiar with the trail at all. You can't just sleep where you want out there with a large group. There's designated campsites. Sending kids out without shelter is a bad idea

Posted by HotBoudin
Metry
Member since Sep 2003
1102 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 9:50 am to
Eleven is a big group to be on the the AT. Just sayin'.

If you plan correctly you sleep in the trail huts and save a large percentage of carrying load for the kids. Have them practice hiking with the packs and boots they'll wear. A lot.
Posted by Tygra
Bee Are
Member since Jan 2008
426 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 10:10 am to
First, they should be answering your questions and addressing your concerns. About the water weight, it will get lighter as they move forward. They should be able to handle the weight. Without a doubt in my mind, you can find a pack to fit her, bc not all packs fit the same. Children camp all of the time including girls younger than your daughter. I never had that opportunity as a child or teen, and it would have been awesome to experience. If my teenage child wanted to go, I would absolutely let her. I would trust the guide who has done this many times before to know what to bring. As others are saying tents are unnecessary, a tarp is the way to go. As long as there is a guide, your daughter will be fine. You have three adults looking after them. If you don’t let her go, you should take her somewhere yourself to see if she is capable. It’s a shame she is missing this opportunity and that she hasn’t had the opportunity sooner.
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