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Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:35 am to LNCHBOX
The worst part about Covid IMO is that we aren't going to finish this story by having an honest plan to help prevent this again in the future by admitting what masks do and don't do. Its all political rhetoric with no teeth at this point, its pathetic. Its pathetic there's not really any countries that can say they have learned and are now doing it right, either. But the USA has failed miserably at moving forward in a positive direction.
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 9:36 am
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:37 am to baldona
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Its pathetic there's not really any countries that can say they have learned and are now doing it right, either. But the USA has failed miserably and moving forward in a positive direction.
The USA is doing pretty much exactly what those in power waned it to do. Government grabbing gobs of control away from the people.
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 9:38 am
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:38 am to LNCHBOX
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Whatever, just stop calling other religious zealots when you refuse to admit that you're uninterested in anything you don't believe.
My beliefs have nothing to do with the statistics.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:39 am to Centinel
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My beliefs have nothing to do with the statistics.
Your beliefs have everything to do with how you're choosing to interpret the statistics though.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:40 am to STEVED00
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Why Haven’t We Been Able to Develop a Mask that Protects the Wearer?
Because we've moved past the point where forcing people to wear a mask is about protecting them from covid.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:41 am to LNCHBOX
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Your beliefs have everything to do with how you're choosing to interpret the statistics though.
And I can say the same thing about your beliefs in the academic studies saying masks are effective.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:41 am to baldona
Covid was a test run. Wait until there's a virus that has people shitting blood out of every hole and is airborne.
Better hope that Ebola, Hanta, or Marbug virus never becomes airborne....or that a similar virus is never carried by mosquitos.
Anything more deadly than Covid/Flu and we are fricked.
Better hope that Ebola, Hanta, or Marbug virus never becomes airborne....or that a similar virus is never carried by mosquitos.
Anything more deadly than Covid/Flu and we are fricked.
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 9:43 am
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:43 am to Centinel
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And I can say the same thing about your beliefs in the academic studies saying masks are effective.
Except the studies control the variables.
So one of us is determining something based on controlled and repeatable scientific research, and the other is making an assumption on the causation for a particular data point that is affected by many, many variables. Why can't you just admit what you're doing?
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:46 am to lockthevaught
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Covid was a test run. Wait until there's a virus that has people shitting blood out of every hole and is airborne.
Exactly and that's my point. Given Covid is airborne and that's a bit different then some other potential means of transmission. But its pathetic we can't at least learn something from this, at least make masks that DO do something quantitative.
The failure of the government here is only going to make a future virus worse.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:47 am to Sidicous
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Nobody is doing this outside a hospital setting (probably not even hospitals are fit testing employees all day every day) as most of the trained pros are called Respiratory Therapists and they don't work for free.
Hospitals fit test employees once per year, not daily.
Also in a hospital setting the masks aren't re-used unless they are sanitized in between.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:47 am to baldona
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at least make masks that DO do something quantitative.
That would still require people to give a shite in how they wear them. You've been out in public, right?
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:47 am to LNCHBOX
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Except the studies control the variables. So one of us is determining something based on controlled and repeatable scientific research
You mean like the Danish mask study that showed no statistical significance in Covid infection rates between mask wearers and non-mask wearers?
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:48 am to LSUBoo
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Also in a hospital setting the masks aren't re-used unless they are sanitized in between.
This was not true for March and April last year
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:50 am to LNCHBOX
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This was not true for March and April last year
That was an obvious deviation from the standard procedure.
The hospital I'm at fortunately never got to that point.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:50 am to Centinel
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You mean like the Danish mask study that showed no statistical significance in Covid infection rates between mask wearers and non-mask wearers?
The one that said "Although the difference observed was not statistically significant, the 95% CIs are compatible with a 46% reduction to a 23% increase in infection?"
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:51 am to LNCHBOX
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Cover your mouth and nose is all the training you need to wear a mask properly
Then it isn’t really effective for them either. My industry requires Fit testing when wearing a mask. A non properly fitting mask is pretty useless.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:52 am to STEVED00
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Then it isn’t really effective for them either
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My industry requires Fit testing when wearing a mask. A non properly fitting mask is pretty useless.
Just because it is useless for whatever exposure you are protecting yourself from in your job does not mean it is useless for all applications.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:53 am to LNCHBOX
The one that said 42 of 2,393 people (1.8%) in the mask group and 53 of 2,470 (2.1%) in the no-mask group contracted Covid over the test period.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:53 am to LNCHBOX
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That would still require people to give a shite in how they wear them. You've been out in public, right?
Back to my original point. Trusting someone else to protect you as opposed taking that responsibility and not leaving it up to others.
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