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re: Why don’t more people who believe in evolution advocate for Darwinism in people?
Posted on 7/10/18 at 4:47 pm to weagle99
Posted on 7/10/18 at 4:47 pm to weagle99
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If natural selection produces the fittest over time, and created man, why shouldn’t it happen? Or is man’s evolution complete?
Because we have the technology available to insure the reproduction and continued survival of all humans regardless of fitness.
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 4:47 pm to STLDawg
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Humans have evolved to the point where individuals can contribute more than just gametes to the development of our species.
So man’s physical evolution following the normal accepted path is over?
Posted on 7/10/18 at 4:48 pm to weagle99
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I don’t think so, not if you truly believe that the process of evolution produces the best that a species can achieve.
Are you for real right now? Because someone believes in evolution they should be fine with letting people die from preventable causes? Is that what you're saying?
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evolution produces the best that a species can achieve.
Also, evolution doesn't do this.
This post was edited on 7/10/18 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 7/10/18 at 4:49 pm to CommoDawg
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Because we have the technology available to insure the reproduction and continued survival of all humans regardless of fitness.
Does that mean that man is finished evolving in a manner similar to all other creatures on Earth?
Posted on 7/10/18 at 4:50 pm to weagle99
The human race has evolved to the point where we need more than just the people with the best genetics. Those people with the best genetics will do great things. But we still need ditch diggers and garbage men. And those people are the ones that need help
Posted on 7/10/18 at 4:50 pm to weagle99
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So man’s physical evolution following the normal accepted path is over?
Actually no. There are a lot of things about our bodies that continue to change.
Wisdom teeth, pinky toes, body hair, etc.
As generations of people do not need certain parts of their body, they will disappear or shrink.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 4:51 pm to northshorebamaman
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Because someone believes in evolution they should be fine with letting people die from preventable causes? Is that what you're saying?
I’m saying that many people blather on about topics like this without a thought to the idiosyncracies of what they believe.
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This post was edited on 7/10/18 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 7/10/18 at 4:52 pm to weagle99
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I’m saying that many people blather on about topis like this without a thought to the idiosyncracies of what they believe.
They aren't connected.
You're completely off the reservation. Its so stupid, its hard to argue.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 4:52 pm to Upperdecker
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The human race has evolved to the point where we need more than just the people with the best genetics. Those people with the best genetics will do great things. But we still need ditch diggers and garbage men. And those people are the ones that need help
So we have moved beyond the established theory of natural selection?
Posted on 7/10/18 at 4:54 pm to TheCaterpillar
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They aren't connected.
I disagree but that’s fine
Posted on 7/10/18 at 4:55 pm to weagle99
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I’m saying that many people blather on about topis like this without a thought to the idiosyncracies of what they believe.
So you're not saying that someone that believes in evolution should let friends and family die of preventable causes.
Good. Because it really sounded like that's what you were saying and that would be an incredibly stupid thing to propose.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 4:55 pm to weagle99
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weagle99
I take it back.
I believe in evolution and want Darwinism to take you down.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 4:55 pm to weagle99
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weagle99
Why don't you just make the point you want to asking a thousand stupid questions?
Posted on 7/10/18 at 4:58 pm to northshorebamaman
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Because it really sounded like that's what you were saying and that would be an incredibly stupid thing to propose.
But why? If someone truly in their heart believes that evolution and survival of the fittest produces the best a species has to offer, how does that square with thwarting the process? Because of their individual emotion which is more important than the belief?
Or they think evolution no long applies to man, which is certainly not an argument I am hearing from that group.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:00 pm to weagle99
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But why? If someone truly in their heart believes that evolution and survival of the fittest produces the best a species has to offer, how does that square with thwarting the process? Because of their individual emotion which is more important than the belief?
Because we have other methods of guaranteeing survival of the species. And we care about people who are not considered fit. Neither of these two points are in conflict with the theory of Evolution
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:03 pm to CommoDawg
quote:The question is what to do about them.
And we care about people who are not considered fit.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:03 pm to CommoDawg
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Because we have other methods of guaranteeing survival of the species.
I’m not talking about just survival, I am talking about improvement.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:06 pm to weagle99
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I’m not talking about just survival, I am talking about improvement.
We don't need evolution for that either. In the not so distant future we'll be able to change our DNA via artificial means. We'll be able to improve man kind without Evolution
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:06 pm to weagle99
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But why?
Recognizing that something exists doesn't equal relishing in the concept. Like I said: I believe in the theory of gravity but I'm still going to tell someone to be careful if they're near a ledge.
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If someone truly in their heart believes that evolution and survival of the fittest produces the best a species has to offer, how does that square with thwarting the process?
Where do you get this "best a species has to offer" shite? That's in your mind, not what the theory actually proposes. Species evolve to fill a niche. That's it. "Best a species has to offer" isn't part of the equation. Evolution isn't a sentient being. It doesn't have goals.
quote:Like someone else said, this is a clown question. If my mother is dying of a preventable disease I shouldn't treat her because evolution? This kind of stupid makes my head hurt.
Because of their individual emotion which is more important than the belief?
This post was edited on 7/10/18 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:10 pm to CommoDawg
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We don't need evolution for that either. In the not so distant future we'll be able to change our DNA via artificial means. We'll be able to improve man kind without Evolution
I see the point you are trying to make, which seems to be that we are maybe in a lull period where our technology has stopped the natural process and as it gets more advanced we will begin an ‘artificial’ process.
Of course, I think implicit in your point is that the (this will sound harsh) ‘substandard’ people that we are keeping alive today will no longer exist going forward once we get our hands on the DNA reigns.
This post was edited on 7/10/18 at 5:12 pm
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