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re: Why Don’t Americans Understand How Poor Their Lives Are?
Posted on 12/24/17 at 1:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 12/24/17 at 1:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the fact that we own more significant assets, bigger homes, and have a higher per capita GDP?
Define assets? They have better healthcare. My paychecks in Europe were segmented, so I knew exactly where my tax dollars were going. I don't think the US would like the public be reminded how much we spend on hellfire missiles and more military bases than the mind can comprehend, which is irrelevant since the death of conventional warfare. GDP per capita? What's western Europe's GDP per capita, that's more of a fair comparison considering most of eastern Europe is still developing.
This post was edited on 12/24/17 at 1:43 pm
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Posted on 12/24/17 at 1:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the fact that we own more significant assets, bigger homes, and have a higher per capita GDP?
And die in debt
Posted on 12/24/17 at 1:45 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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They live longer and work less. Kinda the point the article was trying to make.
Their taxpayers aren't forced to spend billions on the military like we are here. Defense isn't a big worry when Americans take care of that for them.
Posted on 12/24/17 at 1:47 pm to VooDude
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They have better healthcare
no they don't. the very poorest have more access to healthcare than our poorest, but they don't have better healthcare
the US is the pioneer in health technology development and we have the best top-level hospitals in the world
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I don't think the US would like the public be reminded how much we spend on hellfire missiles and more military bases than the mind can comprehend
that is ironic given that those hellfire missiles protect Europe, who refuses to pay for their own defense
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GDP per capita? What's western Europe's GDP per capita, that's more of a fair comparison considering most of eastern Europe is still developing.
the US is 11th
basically the only countries ahead of us are oil-rich states or small states with niche industries
who is not ahead of the US
Ned
UK
Germany
France
Spain
Italy
Sweden
Austria
Denmark
etc
Posted on 12/24/17 at 1:48 pm to Lakeboy7
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And die in debt
An imbecile like you might. Rest of us know how to manage our financial matters.
Posted on 12/24/17 at 1:49 pm to Lakeboy7
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And die in debt
Sweden cuts its max mortgage length to 105 years
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Regulators introduced restrictions which will mean mortgage terms - the time homebuyers have to clear the debt - will be drastically reduced to just... 105 years.
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So as prices rose and affordability became tougher, Swedish banks' response was to extend terms, as had been the case in other high-cost property markets including Japan in the Eighties.
The average term is reported to be 140 years. This meant many people who inherited property but who could not afford to take on the mortgage debt had to sell up.
Posted on 12/24/17 at 1:50 pm to VooDude
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They have better healthcare.
Ah, the elephant in the room. But Americans love their big, bloated, over priced, under serving healthcare. Something something free market.
Posted on 12/24/17 at 1:51 pm to Lakeboy7
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Ah, the elephant in the room. But Americans love their big, bloated, over priced, under serving healthcare. Something something free market.
i was at MD Anderson for a week a few weeks ago and it was a goddamn international scene to behold
you can get a blind appointment within a week in the most in-demand cancer treatment center in the world
in Western Europe, it takes months to get a simple MRI
Posted on 12/24/17 at 1:57 pm to Lakeboy7
quote:Even before the ACA, the market wasn't perfectly competitive, not even close, more of an oligopoly. Now healthcare companies are forced to restructure and merge, making it even less competitive--unless you have a national market that pervades across state lines. What you're seeing today is not a free market.
Ah, the elephant in the room. But Americans love their big, bloated, over priced, under serving healthcare. Something something free market.
Posted on 12/24/17 at 1:59 pm to VooDude
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What you're seeing today is not a free market.
no shite
our health care is bad because of 2 issues
1. our underclass, which fricks everything up (including most of our rankings compared to Western Europe)
2. government influence influencing the market (often to perform some version of welfare for those referenced in 1)
Posted on 12/24/17 at 2:00 pm to Big_Sur
0/10.
Hook's too shiny. Up your troll game, son.
Hook's too shiny. Up your troll game, son.
Posted on 12/24/17 at 2:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Well, what are you going to do, put them in concentration camps?
no shite
our health care is bad because of 2 issues
1. our underclass, which fricks everything up (including most of our rankings compared to Western Europe)
2. government influence influencing the market (often to perform some version of welfare for those referenced in 1)
Posted on 12/24/17 at 2:05 pm to VooDude
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Well, what are you going to do, put them in concentration camps?
make them buy their own insurance?
what's more important, a cell phone or health insurance? a car that is 3-4 years newer or health insurance? cable tv or health insurance?
Posted on 12/24/17 at 2:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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what's more important, a cell phone or health insurance? a car that is 3-4 years newer or health insurance? cable tv or health insurance?
To the underclass all those things are more important than health insurance.
Posted on 12/24/17 at 2:09 pm to Lakeboy7
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To the underclass all those things are more important than health insurance.
Then frick em. If your priorities aren't right, the government shouldn't be supporting your arse.
Posted on 12/24/17 at 2:10 pm to Lakeboy7
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To the underclass all those things are more important than health insurance.
then they need to live with that choice
i can add a bunch of other things like cigarettes, alcohol, nice shoes, tattoos, etc
and it's not an "all or nothing" situation. a shitty flip phone and a $30/mo plan + no cable + a slightly older car, etc would get your health insurance paid for. hell mine was sub-$100/mo pre-ACA
Posted on 12/24/17 at 2:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Well, the US population is a fraction of the quality of western Europe's, so I'm not going to argue there. There are so many cultural silos that are far more financially illiterate; and let's be honest, less sharp. So a system that works in Switzerland, Denmark, or Sweden, isn't going to work in the US. The US is too big to manage, whereas policy in smaller countries is more manageable and enforceable so you get better quality, responsible, and educated citizens.
make them buy their own insurance?
what's more important, a cell phone or health insurance? a car that is 3-4 years newer or health insurance? cable tv or health insurance?
Posted on 12/24/17 at 2:13 pm to Lakeboy7
I haven't read any of the thread other than the OP, but I spent a week with 74 international competitors from 26 different countries this past September. The most common thing I heard (unsolicited) was how great our country was and that from afar it doesn't look like most Americans appreciate how well we have. I assured them that many of us do, but the dumbass often gets the media attention.
At least 4-5 said they would move here if they could.
At least 4-5 said they would move here if they could.
This post was edited on 12/24/17 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 12/24/17 at 2:15 pm to VooDude
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So a system that works in Switzerland, Denmark, or Sweden, isn't going to work in the US. The US is too big to manage, whereas policy in smaller countries is more manageable and enforceable so you get better quality, responsible, and educated citizens.
freedom has a lot to do with that also
freedom breeds inequality
there are tons of policies in Europe that would be anti-freedom but likely would help things out. their educational stratification is VERY needed in the US but it would be illegal and racist if implemented here.
Posted on 12/24/17 at 2:18 pm to VooDude
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. I don't think the US would like the public be reminded how much we spend on hellfire missiles and more military bases than the mind can comprehend, which is irrelevant since the death of conventional warfare.
What about welfare and social programs?
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