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re: Why doesn’t New Orleans do more to attract middle-class home buyers?
Posted on 4/26/18 at 2:50 pm to Paul Allen
Posted on 4/26/18 at 2:50 pm to Paul Allen
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than not then
Sorry Paul, please let S know I apologize.
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 2:51 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 4/26/18 at 2:55 pm to PeterPeterP
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Most wealthy people in NOLA have inherited their money and are mostly idiots, electing people such as Mitch Landrieu. New Orleans doesn't want to attract middle class because they want the white guilt rich voters and the idiot system voters to keep electing absolute morons such as Mitch Landrieu. New Orleans will never change, will never get better. If you want to live there, you better expect that or you will be disappointed.
I think a lot of the middle class in NOLA put their faith in Ray Nagin. Here was this guy... educated (or so it seemed), classy, black, but not particularly from a wealthy family. Didn't go to Jesuit. Businessman and not a connected politician.
I know I supported him in 2002 (was living in a suburb, so could not vote).
Nagin's first two years really were not all that bad. He started to modernize city hall. The FBI was throwing people into jail from both city hall and the Orleans Parish School Board. Crime was under control. Things weren't in great shape, but it looked like we had bottomed out as a city and were starting to rebound.
Then, Katrina. Nagin surely wasn't the only government official who failed. But the change in him was truly something. He became corrupted, bitter, and forgot who it was that elected him (the chocolate city types voted for Pennington).
Katrina obviously changed everything. And looking back... being in charge of the cable company monopoly probably should not have been heralded as this great business icon. But I've often wondered if Katrina hit 100 miles east, how Nagin would have done as mayor for the rest of this time.
I think Nagin's failure caused a lot of middle class people to just give up and leave.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 2:56 pm to LSUFanHouston
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In most urban areas... the only good public schools are selective admission. In New Orleans, Franklin and Lusher are fine. Karr is "ok". Houston ISD has about a half dozen selective admission schools that are very good... which makes sense considering how many more kids they educate
The magnets in BR are fine as well but you are correct - selective admission.
In most Southern cities, the better general public schools are going to be in the suburbs. Obviously there are some exceptions.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 2:58 pm to lsu13lsu
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I have friends from Houston that acted as if it were rare to go to private school. I don't think they were from suburbs but I am not sure. I know they were in an ISD.
Large chunks of the city of Houston are not in Houston ISD. It's very difficult for people not from Houston (or texas I guess) to understand the weird interplays between city lines, annexation, and ISDs. Took me 2-3 years living out there before I understood it.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:06 pm to Houma Sapien
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or an arse beating
I have a sonic in my town, baw
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:13 pm to LSUFanHouston
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and forgot who it was that elected him (the chocolate city types voted for Pennington).
I don't think he forgot, I think he realized who would be voting for him in the next election. The demographics of the city changed and at that point he was trying to gain support from people who didn't support him the first time.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:14 pm to TDcline
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New Englanders are looking for excuses to move south. Houston, Dallas, Austin, Charlotte, Atlanta, Tampa, Orlando, etc etc all give them a reason to consider their town. New Orleans has similar prices to New England. There is no middle class in that city at all.
Another problem is that New Orleans suburbs mostly suck too. JP is stagnant and not that nice but it’s not cheap either. Mandeville and Covington are nice but there’s a 24 mile bridge to cross.
South LA just isn’t that compelling. It’s not just New Orleans.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:16 pm to Areddishfish
quote:And pay the same price for a house that is 1700 sq ft built in 1962 with a shite public school that would be a new 2200 sqft house with a great public school in a texas suburb
All the middle class people live in Metairie.
Yes I am butthurt here in river ridge
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:20 pm to fallguy_1978
quote:Comparing Zachary or Central to the texas suburb high schools is like comparing Jesuit to Istrouma
Most people in Texas that send their kids to good public schools live in the suburbs.
I could move to Zachary, AP or Central and send mine to public if I wanted.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:25 pm to lsupride87
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Comparing Zachary or Central to the texas suburb high schools is like comparing Jesuit to Istrouma
Texas suburbs ain’t my style at all. I hate McMansions with all my heart. That said, objectively speaking, they blow Zachary and central out of the water on paper.
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:30 pm to lsupride87
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Comparing Zachary or Central to the texas suburb high schools is like comparing Jesuit to IstroumaComparing Zachary or Central to the texas suburb high schools is like comparing Jesuit to Istrouma
Katy High School average ACT score is 26
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Zachary is 25. Central is 24.
I didn't say LA schools are better than Texas schools. I just said that most good schools aren't in the inner city and that is true in NOLA and BR also. The better schools are in the suburbs in both cases.
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This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:35 pm to fightin tigers
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Isn't New Orleans growing at the same pace as Houston right now?
I always love comparing Houston/Dallas to New Orleans. Like comparing apples and meerkats.
There was a time, not that long ago, when New Orleans was a major American city. The jewel of the south. An important city, bigger and better than Houston.
So it’s an apt comparison, just like comparing LSU and Alabama football is fair.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:37 pm to OceanMan
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Right now New Orleans has no demand to justify the housing market.
obviously this is false
Yeah I’m not sure what to make of that comment. Clearly there are transactions supporting these prices.
It’s why I moved from the city when I was done renting.
Which I guess is the answer, middle class families live in suburbs. I can’t imagin that is too abnormal.
Clearly he doesn't under that demand dictates the pricing in free markets.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:38 pm to TDcline
how many bans so far in this thread
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:38 pm to GWfool
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Clearly he doesn't under that demand dictates the pricing in free markets.
Well that's just not correct.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:38 pm to fallguy_1978
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I could move to Zachary, AP or Central and send mine to public if I wanted. I just don't want that commute.
Yeah, just to keep our options open we looked there when searching for a house and there were actually less options for our price range and adding an additional 30 minutes to the commute.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:39 pm to cahoots
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xas suburbs ain’t my style at all. I hate McMansions with all my heart. That said, objectively speaking, they blow Zachary and central out of the water on paper.
The Texas suburbs are not for everyone. But for anyone with kids, they’re great. I have a much bigger newer house than I’d ever be able to afford in New Orleans, a responsive police force, few potholes, clean spacious streets, Landscaping everywhere, and no school tuition.
If I was single, I wouldn’t care about all that stuff.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:42 pm to chillygentilly
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You can say that about any neighborhood in New Orleans. A woman was shot at unloading her groceries in Lakeview in broad daylight.
Nola is so small, no matter where someone got shot in the city it was prob less than 3 miles from you.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:46 pm to Lakeboy7
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The people that are moving here: 1. Are white; 2. Want to live in the city (tough concept for some of you); 3. In their 30s to 40s; 4. Highly educated; 5. Have money; 6. Are not from LA.
bunch of friends that moved into the city had help from the rents to by a house after college. They were basically moving from their rents in kenner, metairie, destrehan, and the northshore, to the city. Pretty much all of them went to private/catholic school in the city.
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