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Why does it seem like commercial construction projects take forever these days ?

Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:28 am
Posted by Baylor
Member since May 2009
522 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:28 am
There are projects in lafayette that they have been working on almost 2 years and still no sign of being complete.

Back in the day I remember something small like a place to eat would be started and finished in less then 6 months .

I think superior grill has been in construction for 2 years . Still no sign of opening .

Super one grocery been in construction over a year . Does not even look close to having a grand opening .

That’s just 2 examples . I can show a dozen more .

Is this a work shortage issue ?

Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15165 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:34 am to
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Is this a work shortage issue ?


For skilled labor, absolutely
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84076 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:38 am to
I can count on one hand the number of projects I've had completed on time the last few years. It's getting a little comical
Posted by LSUGrad2005
Member since Aug 2018
672 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:39 am to
skilled workers are in high demand, and lead times are ridiculous. 50 to 80 weeks for mechanical equipment are killing project schedules.
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
4481 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:39 am to
Whataburger in LC went up in about 6 months.
Posted by whiskey over ice
Member since Sep 2020
3255 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:46 am to
Now do highway construction
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37490 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:47 am to
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Now do highway construction


Why does this take so damned long? I get if you’re needing to widen I-10 from the split to the bridge, b why did it seemingly take I-12 so long to be widened East bound from BR, or I-10 to prairieville?
This post was edited on 4/1/24 at 8:48 am
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15140 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:59 am to
Well maybe if yall would quit complaining about those people coming across the border, then we could get these things built in a week.
Posted by Benne Wafer
Member since Jan 2015
400 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 9:07 am to
From what I hear from contractors in my area, permits are still backlogged and it takes forever to get inspections to move projects forward quickly.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
29999 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 9:18 am to
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Why does it seem like commercial construction projects take forever these days ?


because they come dig up a perfectly good road with no issues, then take an average of 2 years to schedule to come back and fix the mess they made

if you arent coming back to fix it for a year or two then maybe, just maybe, DONT DIG UP THE ROAD UNTIL RIGHT BEFORE YOU ARE READY TO FIX IT !!!
This post was edited on 4/1/24 at 9:24 am
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
4596 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 9:19 am to
Whoever McDonalds got to tear down the location on Perkins/Lee is who we need in charge of everything. That location was torn down & rebuilt in record time.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24640 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 9:20 am to
Bidenomics - this means it’s working.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
6978 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 9:22 am to
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skilled workers are in high demand



Wages do not reflect this. It is a fact that skilled workers willing to work for less money are rare but the main reason there is a shortage of skilled tradesmen is wages have not risen in 40+ years in the trades. I know, I know, someone's nephew's best friend's uncle has a stepson with 2 years welding experience who is making $300k a year but here in the real world skilled tradesmen aren't rare skilled tradesmen willing to work for less money than their counterparts were making 40+ years ago are rare.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
7399 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 9:23 am to
Aldi has been building like crazy.

I guess if you have the cash, you can build fast.
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
37319 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 9:24 am to
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Whoever McDonalds got to tear down the location on Perkins/Lee is who we need in charge of everything.


National tenants such as McDonalds are a much different animal than typical commercial projects. They have their own general contractors that do nothing but their work, the end user has national purchasing agreements with their equipment and material supplier that have these items on their shelves awaiting the particular project, and the labor base works 7 days a week. They have performed the same scope of work over and over allowing an expedited turnover.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
6978 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 9:25 am to
The demand for new commercial real estate - retail, restaurant, office space etc. is not great in most of the nation. New construction is not on the fast track like it once was because there is a lot of empty spaces that aren't being leased and restaurants are going under left and right. Motel construction is booming and those projects are being completed quickly because there is a huge demand for them...fast food, strip malls and office space, not so much.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
6978 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 9:27 am to
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Why does this take so damned long?



The biggest reason is the person with the state who makes decisions is making $130K a year while their counterpart with the contractor is making that in bonuses. The state does not know what it wants or needs and the contractor is well versed in leading them astray...chaos is cash in the construction world and there is nothing more chaotic than civil projects.
Posted by Lsutigerturner
Member since Dec 2016
5782 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 9:27 am to
That’s a major issue with two friends getting driveways installed… absolute shite show over 2year!! ATMs, ice machine driveways have all gone up in less then 2 weeks and two friends been waiting in Galveston county for over 2 years for these mfers to approve construction or some shite.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
7577 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 9:31 am to
i know a project where the switchgear lead time is 110 weeks.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
6978 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 9:31 am to
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From what I hear from contractors in my area, permits are still backlogged and it takes forever to get inspections to move projects forward quickly.



People have NO idea how expensive it is to get a building permit and what those costs do to the cost of building anything. I spent an hour with a local inspector Thursday because I am planning on building a timber frame RV cover with trees on a lot we own and convincing the county that me using those trees is far more sensible than putting them in a landfill. It is fully permissable to build a "house" on wheels and truck it 500 miles and place it on concrete blocks but try to use some southern yellow pine from your place for board and batten siding, a practice as old as europeans being in the south, and watch the county employees have a stroke.
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