re: Why does Hitler get more hate than Stalin?

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That is basically what my quote says that he was willing to go to war for expansion.

Yes and in doing so had to modernize the army to compete with that of France.

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He needed a modern military to compete with ALL of his regional neighbors. France being the largest of course it needn't to be able to match France's power or at least come close. Again, this does not indicate a desire or intent to war with France.

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Name another army that could go toe to toe with Germany in Spt 1939? it was just France, it was inevitable.

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I don't agree it was inevitable, but regardless, that's quite the different claim than saying Hitler sought war with France or intended to fight them all along.

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To consider this did not cross the minds of the German army until Sept 2 1939 is just not realistic.

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I never said war with France never crossed ANYONE's mind in Germany much less the German brass. The German brass were terrified of a potential war outbreak with France during the Austrian crisis and the Czech crisis. Even as far back as the reoccupation of the Rhineland. Hell, several attempted to organize Hitler's assassination because they feared Germany would be sucked into a war they would lose outright over these issues. Hitler as well was deeply concerned with the French. Hitler made a statement to the effect that the reoccupation of the Rhineland was the most stressful day of his life due to fears of French response.

So again, you are attributing a position to me that I've never taken.

I think you have a very practical view of this, and nothing you said has been incorrect. The German brass did not want to fight anyone, but when you are ruled by a megalomaniac you are at the mercy of someone who would rather have the 4th army starve than rescue it.

In both World Wars, Germany attacked France in order to clear the way for a single-front war against Russia.

It is possible to consider both the First and Second World Wars as two chapters of an overarching conflict between Germany and Russia over which would fill the power vacuum left in eastern and southeastern Europe by the double decay and collapse of Austria-Hungary and the Ottoman Empire.

Germany went to war with France in 1914 because their war plan called for it in the event of war with Russia, and war with Russia was inevitable because the Tsar had guaranteed Serbia protection in the event of an attack on that state by Austria-Hungary. The entirety of the Western Front in that war was the direct result of a conflict between Germany (and Austria-Hungary, a state dominated by ethnic Germans) and Russia.

Hitler's main plan prior to the start of World War 2 was to increase Germany's sphere of influence in the East at the Soviet Union's expense. Although he was prepared for war against Great Britain and France, he did not seek it. His initial aims did not include western expansion. France and Great Britain forced his hand by declaring war in support of Poland.

I don't know what History Channel show you're talking about.

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Germany went to war with France in 1914 because their war plan called for it in the event of war with Russia, and war with Russia was inevitable because the Tsar had guaranteed Serbia protection in the event of an attack on that state by Austria-Hungary. The entirety of the Western Front in that war was the direct result of a conflict between Germany (and Austria-Hungary, a state dominated by ethnic Germans) and Russia.

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I'm not talking about WWI. WWI is much more straightforward.

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Hitler's main plan prior to the start of World War 2 was to increase Germany's sphere of influence in the East at the Soviet Union's expense. Although he was prepared for war against Great Britain and France, he did not seek it. His initial aims did not include western expansion. France and Great Britain forced his hand by declaring war in support of Poland.

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Agree with all of this. Perhaps I read your post wrong? It sounded like you were suggesting, as another poster here was, that France was a predetermined target of Hitler's aggression.

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I don't know what History Channel show you're talking about.

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It was basically just a new presentation for them to premiere a "new" WWII series, since everything has been covered as much as it could be. It centered on linking the figures of WWII to their experience in WWI and asserting that the two conflicts were really just one big European struggle. Which has some degree of truth to it, but then I started hearing folks with a rudimentary WWII understanding making this argument pretty cavalierly and I found it rather irritating.

Israel Brah...God's people.

Literally Hitler's Plan to invade France

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Developed by Generalleutnant (Lieutenant General) Erich von Manstein, the plan greatly modified the original 1939 versions of the invasion plan, Fall Gelb (Case Yellow) by Franz Halder, for the Battle of France.

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On 10 January 1940, the Mechelen Incident occurred, when a German aircraft carrying documents containing parts of the operational plans of Fall Gelb crashed in Belgium, thus prompting another review of the invasion plan.

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The plans were literally discovered in a plan crash.

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I guess the French built the Maginot Line as part of their plot to instigate war with Germany? I guess Germany just had to blitzkrieg through Belgium in self defense?

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The Maginot Line was built for very obvious reasons. In the first 50 years following the unification of Germany, France and Germany had entered into 2 major wars with one another and stood as two of the world's foremost geopolitical rivals who also happened to share a border. The Maginot Line is also irrelevant as to having any bearing on Hitler's geopolitical intentions.

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Your position is beyond delusional. Hitler's war machine marched through the entire European Continent, into much of Africa, and well into Asia. Hitler quite literally had grand designs to invade France. It's beyond argument.

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Please go through my posts and tell me what is factually incorrect, delusional, or beyond argument. Please be specific.

Hitler's armies moved into Western Europe and Africa only as a result of the military situation created by French and British declarations of war against Germany. Thus using these instances as an argument for "Hitler had grand designs to invade France" absent French declaration of war against Germany which then created the conditions where it was fundamentally necessary for Germany to invade France, is logically invalid.

If you can provide any historical record that indicates that Hitler sought to invade France as a geopolitical strategy outside of a response to French hostile declarations, please, by all means, provide it. We know with great material evidence that Hitler sought unification with Austria and reincorporation of German territories and peoples lost following WWI. We also know that he had grand designs on expanding Germany's control east in general. He made this explicitly clear in Mein Kampf and many speeches. What we don't have is much support for the notion that Hitler sought to conquer France and incorporate France into greater Germany. That France was defeated and occupied by Germany in a war declared by France does not suggest otherwise.

Hitler, in spite of his bold and brazen actions, was quite wary of entering into any military struggle with France and Britain. He was well aware of their military power and the offensive launched into France in May of 1940 was considered extremely risky by all involved. He was also guilty of believing that the French and British would ultimately balk on declaring war over Poland. In this, he made a typical Hitlerian error in judgment.

It's quite common to place the entire outbreak of the war on the mantle of "Hitler was a madman who wanted to conquer and rule all of Europe" but this is pop history. The reality is that France and Britain and their foreign policy strategies and philosophies were likewise major contributors to WWII's outbreak. This is a hard pill for many to swallow but it's simply true.