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re: Why do anti vaccine people tend to be conspiracy theorists as well.

Posted on 2/14/15 at 2:02 pm to
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 2/14/15 at 2:02 pm to
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These psychos send their unvaccinated kids to school with your kids, and now it's a giant science experiment to watch how disease spreads.


But your kids have the vaccine right? So you have nothing to worry about.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 2/14/15 at 2:11 pm to
Wrong. That's what the big fuss is all about. I'm probably butchering this, but I think if less than 90% of the kids are vaccinated, it can still spread. Not to mention the kids carry the disease home to family members on medication that weakens their immune system.
There was a whole slew of issues that stem out from it, that I saw a doctor talking about on tv two weeks ago.

It's more dumb than smart to not get the vaccine.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 2/14/15 at 2:27 pm to
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I also personally know two people whose children will never lead normal lives because of vaccines


This can be directly attributed to vaccines or they think vaccines caused them?

The thing is lots of developmental problems are first observable around the time vaccines are given so devastated parents blame the vaccine. It is actually really sad.
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8959 posts
Posted on 2/14/15 at 2:30 pm to
What about the infant who can't get the vaccine because they are a newborn. You have these idiots letting their unvaccinated kids out in public and diseases spread.

Let me put it this way, in 1960 you didn't hear about dumb fricks holding their kids back from Polio vaccinations.

Maybe Darwinism will play out and the spawn of these morons will not be able to polute the gene pool.
This post was edited on 2/14/15 at 2:32 pm
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 2/14/15 at 2:35 pm to
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What about the infant who can't get the vaccine because they are a newborn.


If the vaccines were so foolproof why can't newborns have them? Is there some magic transformation from day 364 to day 365 that all of the sudden makes injection safe?

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Let me put it this way, in 1960 you didn't hear about dumb fricks holding their kids back from Polio vaccinations.


It's clear you have no idea what you're talking about.

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Maybe Darwinism will play out and the spawn of these morons will not be able to polute the gene pool.


People like you cast doubt on the legitimacy of that whole theory anyway.
This post was edited on 2/14/15 at 2:37 pm
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 2/14/15 at 2:36 pm to
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How many anti-vaccine people do you talk tomy first thought as well, legit question. I've never spoke to someone where this came up, much less multiple times as well as discussing conspiracy theories with the same people. Seems farfetched, or maybe the OP is just very outgoing


I know a few people who post about this stuff on facebook constantly and then all their anti vaccine friends reply.
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8959 posts
Posted on 2/14/15 at 2:37 pm to
Ok troll.

Let see some facts about why you shouldn't get your kid vaccinated.

I'll hang up and listen.

ETA- if you need to google what facts are, go ahead and do that now.
This post was edited on 2/14/15 at 2:38 pm
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/14/15 at 2:38 pm to
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I also personally know two people whose children will never lead normal lives because of vaccines and it's not because of autism.


What happened to these two children you know personally?

I can pretty much say with certainty that you would know many, many kids that wouldn't be leading normal lives if it were not for vaccines.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 2/14/15 at 2:40 pm to
Randysavage what do you think is more dangerous vaccinations or aspirin?
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 2/14/15 at 2:41 pm to
Excuses for everything.


Probably had nothing to do with the parents being in their 40's
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8959 posts
Posted on 2/14/15 at 2:41 pm to
RandySavage is a troll. Pay him no mind.

At least I hope he is a troll. For his family's sake.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 2/14/15 at 2:46 pm to
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/14/15 at 2:47 pm to
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I can pretty much say with certainty that you would know many, many kids that wouldn't be leading normal lives if it were not for vaccines.


I never said I was anti-vaccine. In fact I stated the opposite.

Do you know why they make children get two injections of MMR?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/14/15 at 2:53 pm to
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If the vaccines were so foolproof why can't newborns have them? Is there some magic transformation from day 364 to day 365 that all of the sudden makes injection safe?


Vaccines are unnecessary for newborns because they inherit their mother's immunity. Breast milk also helps sustain their immunity.

And vaccines obviously aren't foolproof. There's just a risk/benefit calculation. The chances of a serious adverse reaction to the MMR vaccine are very low. The risks involved with exposure to measles are much higher. That's true for both the chances of adverse outcomes and the consequences of adverse outcomes.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 2/14/15 at 2:56 pm to
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false flags


100% real and ongoing. BTW I get vaccinated and so does everyone else in my family.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
80928 posts
Posted on 2/14/15 at 2:57 pm to
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Wrong. That's what the big fuss is all about. I'm probably butchering this, but I think if less than 90% of the kids are vaccinated, it can still spread. Not to mention the kids carry the disease home to family members on medication that weakens their immune system.
There was a whole slew of issues that stem out from it, that I saw a doctor talking about on tv two weeks ago.

It's more dumb than smart to not get the vaccine.


I don't know the exact percentage required for herd immunity, but the principle is correct. One reason is vaccines don't "take" for everyone, so if you're one of those unlucky winners, you have to be protected by the fact that nobody around you has the ability to transmit the disease.

There are also people who can't be vaccinated for medical reasons--they have compromised immune systems or some other reason the vaccine is contraindicated.Anti-vaccine dullards are placing them at risk by intentionally leaving themselves open as vectors.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 2/14/15 at 3:03 pm to
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false flags 100% real and ongoing. BTW I get vaccinated and so does everyone else in my family.



Like Newtown?
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 2/14/15 at 3:05 pm to
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Like Newtown?


Let's ratchet it up a notch and say Pearl Harbor and 9/11.
Posted by CENLALSUFAN
Beaumont
Member since Mar 2009
7269 posts
Posted on 2/14/15 at 3:10 pm to
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What about the infant who can't get the vaccine because they are a newborn. You have these idiots letting their unvaccinated kids out in public and diseases spread.


Tell me about it..those idiots should keep their unvaccinated babies at home and not take them out into public until they have been vaccinated! Would definitely help control the spread of these diseases!
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 2/14/15 at 3:16 pm to
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Weird fact...



Is false.

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