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re: Why did the US lose the Vietnam War?
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:03 pm to VermilionTiger
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:03 pm to VermilionTiger
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The same reason the US lost the war in the Middle East
US didnt lose the war in the middle east. What were we supposed to do stay there for 100 years? The people/government there never wanted democracy. They didnt want to defend personal freedom so we gave them the keys to rule their country and they said no thanks we prefer to live under taliban rule. That's on them not the U.S.
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Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:04 pm to Rouge
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Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:04 pm to SaintlyTiger88
So different now. At that time we were very concerned about communism proliferating in Southeast Asia (Vietnam, Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia) and then reaching to other areas such as the Philippines (The falling dominos theory).
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:05 pm to SaintlyTiger88
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Why did the US lose the Vietnam War
We were never really there to win.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:05 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Terrain.
Failure to bomb North Vietnam into the Stone Age like we did German and Japan.
Also did not attack staging areas in Laos and Cambodia.
Failure to bomb North Vietnam into the Stone Age like we did German and Japan.
Also did not attack staging areas in Laos and Cambodia.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:06 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:07 pm to ItTakesAThief
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Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:07 pm to SaintlyTiger88
It was a war game. Testing new strategies, new equipment. They would send those guys on countless suicide missions to test the outcomes.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:07 pm to Winnebago Tiger
it was unwinnable given the fact that what it would have taken to win the war would 100% drawn china and russia full fledged into the conflict and then everything goes to shite
in a vacuum though, bare minimum an invasion of north vietnam and full fledged bombing of their military installations. topple the communist government, give full fledged support to whatever shitty dictator we ultimately would have supported in its place, and then sign a defensive pact with them to protect them from outside interference
we never set foot in NV and only bombed places that we knew russian advisors were not located. we never should have been there in the first place but it is what it is. we were terrified of losing asia after china became communist
in a vacuum though, bare minimum an invasion of north vietnam and full fledged bombing of their military installations. topple the communist government, give full fledged support to whatever shitty dictator we ultimately would have supported in its place, and then sign a defensive pact with them to protect them from outside interference
we never set foot in NV and only bombed places that we knew russian advisors were not located. we never should have been there in the first place but it is what it is. we were terrified of losing asia after china became communist
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:11 pm to WestCoastAg
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Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:12 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Because the Vietnam war like Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan, was simply a means to continue massive unlimited budgets/profits to the Military Industrial complex.
Winning was never the goal.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:13 pm to Winnebago Tiger
quote:fair point. we will never know how that would have turned out in the long run. just glad that we didnt start a thermonuclear war
but what you’re proposing just sounds like the Afghanistan strategy
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:13 pm to WestCoastAg
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we never set foot in NV
au contraire mon frere
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:15 pm to 777Tiger
we never sent any kind of significant or serious number of troops into NV specifically because we were afraid of china of reacting in the same way that it did in korea
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:16 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Nixon had the war won once they started the air bombing campaign. Then the Democrats and Congress defunded the war and our Armed Forces had no choice but to go home.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:18 pm to WestCoastAg
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we never sent any kind of significant or serious number of troops into NV specifically because we were afraid of china of reacting in the same way that it did in korea
bro, do you even route pack 1-6a? yep, a that was largely airstrikes but there were a significant amount of US boots all over NV, we were kicking their arse too, except when hamstrung by Washington and the CIA
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:18 pm to SaintlyTiger88
The horror
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:19 pm to DownSouthCrawfish
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The horror
you are not a soldier, you're an errand boy...
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:20 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Liberals
Posted on 1/15/22 at 2:20 pm to SaintlyTiger88
The general incompetence and corruption of ARVN was a huge factor. Despite being one of the most well armed and funded militaries in the world the officer corps was garbage and almost every conscript had no interest in fighting.
Like the Nationalist in China the leadership of South Vietnam were more interested in getting rich off US funding than actually winning the war.
Like the Nationalist in China the leadership of South Vietnam were more interested in getting rich off US funding than actually winning the war.
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