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re: Why Are New LA Houses so Boring/Stale?

Posted on 3/11/14 at 8:49 am to
Posted by theBeard
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 8:49 am to
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Posted by urinetrouble
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 8:57 am to
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Then there's the fear of it being built like Perkins Rowe with its fake fronts, windows, etc, looking like a movie set, and dominated by chains, which is the opposite of the attraction to the Southdowns area IMO.


Perkins Rowe is still way better than the status quo for commercial development, which is a mundane strip mall with a huge parking lot designed to accommodate Black Friday scenarios.

I feel the same way about TNDs such as River Ranch or Rouzan compared to building more single-entry track home subdivisions paid for by the cul-de-sac lobbyists.
Posted by DoctorTechnical
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:02 am to
*Tract (homes).
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:03 am to
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Perkins Rowe is still way better than the status quo for commercial development, which is a mundane strip mall with a huge parking lot designed to accommodate Black Friday scenarios.

I feel the same way about TNDs such as River Ranch or Rouzan compared to building more single-entry track home subdivisions paid for by the cul-de-sac lobbyists.


You may he right, but it's not saying much, and it's still Disney World to me, playing community rather than building a community, or in our case, rebuilding our downtown community which we can build upon and really use to revitalize a much much larger area of our city.

I just don't understand the attraction to something that is in all reality a mall intended to play like a community instead of actually doing it proper, and especially where it was designed to be done from our very beginning as a city.

It's like playing a game called community than actually doing the real thing.


I don't know. It's like every time I go to Perkins Rowe I think it's more of an escape from the realities that is our actual community than an actual real community itself, a virtual community inside a community. A Mayberry USA movie set.

This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 9:07 am
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:03 am to
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I don't know how anybody could stand to live in a subdivision


I chose to live in our subdivision because all the houses that I was looking at had a lot of problems or at least didn't seem to offer that much. I decided to go new because I didn't want any headaches associated with shitty people that hide stuff. This was also our first house.
Posted by Ghostfacedistiller
BR
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:05 am to
It's like that everywhere; this far from a Louisiana issue.
Posted by Coater
Madison, MS
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:07 am to
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It's like that everywhere; this far from a Louisiana issue.


Posted by urinetrouble
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:08 am to
Well, how do you do it proper? These things just don't seem to happen organically anymore.

You're getting into a larger issue. It's because we don't build our roads with anything other than the car in mind. So naturally, development follows suits.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:09 am to
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It's like that everywhere; this far from a Louisiana issue.


You hear this a lot with a lot of different things. Serious question. Does that make it more palatable?

Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:19 am to
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Well, how do you do it proper? These things just don't seem to happen organically anymore. You're getting into a larger issue. It's because we don't build our roads with anything other than the car in mind. So naturally, development follows suits.


Just do it near and in downtown instead of off College and Perkins, or Bluebonnet and Perkins. You could quite easily begin in and around downtown and go down Main Street to The old Goudchaux's and up at 22nd, or if 22nd is too ambitious, then stop at 19th, and work more toward the Garden District direction. There is a ton of undeveloped land and buildings that are sitting there waiting to be redeveloped and there's virtually nobody there anymore. By doing so, you can tie downtown to the Garden District and beyond. It's a place to begin to really revitalize the area and bring life to it. Doing it properly and you can then I think begin to see other people getting on the bandwagon and taking the place back from the ghost town it's become over the years once they see that it's safe to come in and the water is fine.



Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:29 am to
For anyone who is interested in vernacular architectural patterns, check out the Louisiana Speaks Pattern Book - PDF

We designed a PUD one time and had a variety of architectural patterns available in the CCRs. Was going to be an awesome mix of traditional to modern Louisiana styles. Developer ended up selling out to Horton. Now it looks like every other neighborhood.
Posted by BoostAddict
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:33 am to
There are some very cool new houses and remodels in the Old Goodwood area between Government and Jefferson.
Posted by Buddy Garrity
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:39 am to
suburbs suck. i don't get the appeal.
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25249 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:42 am to
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For instance they were required to have a wall of vinal siding when they wanted all brick. Had a list of front door archways to choose from. It sucks but it prevents some no taste cheap arse from building an obscure house in your neighborhood.


WTF, vinyl siding is classy?
Posted by dafuqusay
Houston
Member since Mar 2014
774 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:43 am to
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suburbs suck. i don't get the appeal.


What is your ideal place to live? Country(lots of space), city(close to evrything, nightlife). And what about the suburbs suck?
Posted by Ghostfacedistiller
BR
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:45 am to
Hijack, but anyone ever been to Fargo, ND? Every single house is 100% siding. No brick, no stucco, totally siding.

It's really bizarre.

Also, regarding suburbs. Everyone has to find what they want. I don't discriminate. Personally, I've lived in very rural, urban, and suburban settings. I like having at minimum a yard and garage while being close to civilization (stores, restaurants, etc.) I don't like driving 15 miles for milk or having to hand carry everything I buy and go to the story 4 times a week.

To each his/her own.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 9:51 am
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:46 am to
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What is your ideal place to live? Country(lots of space), city(close to evrything, nightlife). And what about the suburbs suck?


Country I get, City I get, but Suburbs seem to me to be a half arse attempt at both, and not very good at either one.

Posted by dafuqusay
Houston
Member since Mar 2014
774 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:52 am to
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Country I get, City I get, but Suburbs seem to me to be a half arse attempt at both, and not very good at either one.


I could live country or city, but to me, the suburbs offer a good mix between the two, personally.

I would love to have a few acres in the country but then I also enjoy having amenities 30 seconds away which is what suburbs provide.. I grew up on 200+ acres when i was a kid and the nearest gas station was 20 minutes away..

Having a wife and 3 kids, the suburbs give me affordable housing, good public schools, and entertainment/amenities that I need
Posted by Buddy Garrity
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:55 am to
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What is your ideal place to live? Country(lots of space), city(close to evrything, nightlife). And what about the suburbs suck?



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Country I get, City I get, but Suburbs seem to me to be a half arse attempt at both, and not very good at either one.

Posted by Buddy Garrity
Member since Mar 2013
4224 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:56 am to
have you ever actually lived in the country? the suburbs are nothing like living in the country.
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