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re: why are french drains so expensive?

Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:26 pm to
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kinda the point of this thread, chef.



Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:26 pm to
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Call before you dig. It’s the law.

dont tell me what to do in my own backyard!
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:27 pm to
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why are french drains so expensive?
labor. I installed my own over 2 weekends alone. it was hard work.


I'm sure the contractors didn't want to do the work (heavy and time consuming) so they figured they'd throw an astronomical number out there to see if you're dumb enough to bite.
This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 4:28 pm
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:28 pm to
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I'll agree that 5K seems a little high. Which particular item of the quote seems to be too high?


both guys who quoted me wouldn't provide a breakdown.

i would probably be ok with $1k which was kinda my cut-off point originally vs DIY so it was sticker shock when i got those numbers.
Posted by Duckhammer_77
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:28 pm to
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wouldn't provide a breakdown

then call someone else...sounds sketchy
Posted by ThatMakesSense
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:28 pm to
What's the total feet in length you need run? Are there obstructions such as trees in the way?
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:29 pm to
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did you rent a trenching tool?


I put in gravity assisted pop ups and a whole sprinkler system which was over 400ft in two weekends. The trencher cost me about 100 bucks for 6-8 hours. It was heavy AF but got the job done.

Be sure to get your yard staked out by the city for utility lines before you start.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:31 pm to
The drain from Seine in the main is a pain
Posted by Jackie Chan
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:31 pm to
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quote:

If you don’t want to pay the expert $5k to do it and you think it’s so easy, do it yourself.
kinda the point of this thread, chef.


you sure the point wasn't so you could bitch about the price of a french drain?
Posted by Morty
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:31 pm to
Tariffs?
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:31 pm to
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What's the total feet in length you need run? Are there obstructions such as trees in the way?

we're talking straight as an arrow. i'll pick up 2 gutters along the way.

measurement wise i'm guessing between 100 & 150ft.

back of my house, no utilities back there (house is on a hill)

no trees or roots but a good bit of rock underground.
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:32 pm to
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both guys who quoted me wouldn't provide a breakdown.

i would probably be ok with $1k which was kinda my cut-off point originally vs DIY so it was sticker shock when i got those numbers.




Lol, of course not. This would be it:

Materials: $500
Labor: $500
Profit: $4000
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:32 pm to
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you sure the point wasn't so you could bitch about the price of a french drain?


no, i legit wanted to know if i was missing something obvious that would dictate that kind of pricing.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:39 pm to
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i'll pick up 2 gutters along the way.


This has me confused. As gutters are normally on roofs in my experience.

ETA: you mean a concrete or some type of drainage system above ground to move water?

150 ft at most, of just going through dirt? Not under concrete?

I would go with actual, 4 inch, black perforated drain pipe, instead of old sticks of crappy PVC. I would also throw in 3 or 4 12" drain boxes to connect all the drains through.

That landscape fabric is shite and a waste of time.

But yeah, 5k is expensive.
This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 4:43 pm
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:42 pm to
You could just pile up fill dirt around your house so water doesn’t drain to your foundation but away from it. Throw mulch over it to prevent erosion until the weeds take over and create a root network to hold it together.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:43 pm to
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This has me confused. As gutters are normally on roofs in my experience.

what do you call the part that goes to the ground and water comes out of? i thought the term gutter included the part that goes around your roof and the down tubes.

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150 ft at most, of just going through dirt? Not under concrete?

yeah but see my comment about the limestone in our soil.

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I would go with actual, 4 inch, black perforated drain pipe, instead of old sticks of crappy PVC. I would also throw in 3 or 4 12" drain boxes to connect all the drains through.



seen some pics. those drain boxes look slick.

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That landscape fabric is shite and a waste of time.


got it. not gonna skimp on the drain pipe since the cost of that is negligible.

This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 4:45 pm
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:44 pm to
Downspout is the gutter part that comes down.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:47 pm to
You need to post pics if you want the best advice.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:47 pm to
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You could just pile up fill dirt around your house so water doesn’t drain to your foundation but away from it. Throw mulch over it to prevent erosion until the weeds take over and create a root network to hold it together.


i need to take a pic for y'all.

the back is a levelled out area next to a pretty steep hill that goes up another 50-100 feet to the top which is where my property line ends. i have a crazy number of trees along the carved out edge of the ridge and this area gets virtually no sun at all.

its become a swamp because we have had so much rain and it drains inside the hill for weeks after the rain has stopped and ends up keeping that part of my yard very mushy.

hard to get anything green to grow so thinking of filling it in with rock or something else but wanted to fix the drainage issue first.
This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 4:49 pm
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:47 pm to
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Downspout
got it
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