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re: Who would win…A Knight vs A Samurai

Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:54 pm to
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:54 pm to
Samurai easily. They were stealthy so he would slit the Knights throat while he slept.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:56 pm to
Samurai
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:03 pm to
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Samarai

Knights aren’t the bad arses movies make them out to be


The way some of y’all are talking about samurai, y’all must have believed the movies on them.

If we are talking mounted combat, one on one, armored knight on heavy horse wins, hands down.
Posted by FreddieMac
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:06 pm to
A katana is a slashing weapon and would be pretty useless against Mail and armor. A broadsword is a hacking weapon and would be very effective against Japanese armor.

Also, European armor was designed to account for the English longbow. That had over 100 lbs draw weight. The Japanese bow being for horses probably did not have that much draw weight.

A Knight would defeat a Samari pretty easily.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:14 pm to
Exactly. The sword evolves to beat the shield and vica versa.

Now, let’s just say you plopped Japan in the North Sea, and give them a couple hundred years of fighting to develop.

Now THAT would be interesting.
Posted by mikelbr
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:18 pm to
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Tom Cruise

Richard Gere Sans Lemminwinks.
Posted by FreddieMac
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:25 pm to
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slit Knights throat while he slept


Would never happen because of the Samari code of honor. They were all macho and shite. Had strict codes of combat. You are thinking of ninjas of feudal Japan.
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 10:27 pm
Posted by leftyloosey
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:30 pm to
Can the knight be a dark one?
Posted by STLDawg
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:30 pm to
I’m going to take the knight. I think it would be a lot like the fight in GoT between Jorah Mormont and the Dothraki. The slashing style sword is at a major disadvantage against plate armor. And the idea of knights as lumbering plodders is not based in fact.
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:30 pm to
Samurai

His sword would slice through a knights sword..first off.
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 10:31 pm
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:33 pm to
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His sword would slice through a knights sword..first off.


Man, y’all really did learn everything about knights and samurai from movies
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:42 pm to
But could the knight beat this guy...

This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 1:19 pm
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:46 pm to
I'm taking the knight with this. Once you remove all the mystique and just examine the two sets of armor, weapons etc, give me the more heavily armored man in a one-on-one conflict.
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:54 pm to
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Man, y’all really did learn everything about knights and samurai from movies
yes and video games.


Katana and Wakizashi>>>A Claymore
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:03 pm to
But it’s not about the sword here, it’s about the armor. The katana isn’t designed at all for the sort of armor a knight would wear. Meanwhile a claymore or a zweihander would cleave through Samurai armor.

Additionally, a katana wouldn’t be as effective in finding the vulnerable spots in the armor, due to it being a slashing weapon rather than a piercing, hacking weapon.

Basically what makes the katana great in Japan makes it a poor choice versus a knight, especially in mounted combat.
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:09 pm to


Samurai did carry more than just swords, so if we are going all out..frick it, some would win some would lose
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:26 pm to
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How long are they fighting? In short fight go with the knight, over 10 minutes I will take the Samurai.
Where does this viewpoint that knights were unwieldy and had zero stamina come from?

Movies and TV?

The concept would make no sense in battle.
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 11:26 pm
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:27 pm to
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And the idea of knights as lumbering plodders is not based in fact.
Exactly.

It makes zero sense.

Battles weren’t 10 minute affairs.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:37 pm to
Right ?


Modern knight fights

This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 11:40 pm
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 3/10/22 at 8:08 am to
The Samurai’s only really effective weapon against a mounted knight would be their Polearm

The Yari


It’s designed for use against mounted enemies and can unseat them or may be enough to penetrate the armor on a charge (since it’s a piercing weapon vs. a slashing one.)
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