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re: Who on here is a Licensed Electrical Contractor?

Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:16 am to
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:16 am to
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Get yourself the latest copy of the National Electric Code (NEC). I believe the 2024 version is out now.



Most likely Louisiana adopted the 2020 NEC sometime in 2023 like most jurisdictions and will adapt the 2023 NEC sometime in 2026 most likely....
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:18 am to
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the guy over engineering at some shops not even an engineer


she has engineers that work for her, it's a pretty big company, she just knows how to put/keep people in the key positions and let them do their job, they are also compensated extremely well
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:22 am to
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It’s not rare at least in Louisiana it isn’t that the person who holds the professional license for a company doesn’t know what’s actually going on for lack of a better term
that's kind of scary to be honest.



With how much the state loves to regulate and license things, you'd hope requiring competent electricians would be somewhere at the top of their list.
This post was edited on 3/4/25 at 9:27 am
Posted by lepdagod
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 9:54 am to
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With how much the state loves to regulate and license things, you'd hope requiring competent electricians would be somewhere at the top of their list.


Two different things… electrician who does actual work vs owner of said company who employs electricians… I think you are making the assumption that said owner should be competent in electrician work… that would be nice but it ain’t a requirement
Posted by yakster
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 10:27 am to
I just wanna know what the questions are.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 10:29 am to
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Two different things… electrician who does actual work vs owner of said company who employs electricians… I think you are making the assumption that said owner should be competent in electrician work… that would be nice but it ain’t a requirement
no I'm referring to the post mentioning how even the qualifying party under the license isn't even competent as an electrician. You would think at least one person, freaking someone under a contractors license knows what the frick is going on
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 10:35 am to
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I think you are making the assumption that said owner should be competent in electrician work… that would be nice but it ain’t a requirement


my company operates almost 1000 airplanes but the boss isn't a pilot
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 11:03 am to
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no I'm referring to the post mentioning how even the qualifying party under the license isn't even competent as an electrician. You would think at least one person, freaking someone under a contractors license knows what the frick is going on


What you are implying makes sense but isn’t practical… seeing as don’t many journeymen in any particular industry has the capital to start a company… the qualifying test is just that a test
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 11:05 am to
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just wanna know what the questions are


This… is this a field or office question
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 11:12 am to
Just seems pointless other than verifying insurance/bonding.

I'm not sure I know a single qualifying person that isn't more than competent in electrical theory and performing qualified work. I know journeyman card holders that have a hard time being the qualified individual for a contractors license.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 11:23 am to
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other than verifying insurance/bonding


Bingo… I think the “a competent person “ refers mainly to a person of means finically speaking… more than competence in said field
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 11:24 am to
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Bingo… I think the “a competent person “ refers mainly to a person of means finically speaking…


my dad made a small fortune bonding during the Louisiana recession of the 80s
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 11:25 am to
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my dad made a small fortune bonding during the Louisiana recession of the 80s


Oil or construction???
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 11:25 am to
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construction
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 11:44 am to
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you guys have me curious on licensing requirements in Louisiana. I'm guessing you're referring to more than one owner of the contracting business in which the license is filed under?

In CA my license is under my sole proprietorship so there is no way around not actually being a master journeyman level.


I'm IBEW. From what I've been told by roadies, California is one of a few states where you have to take a state-specific code test, FWIW.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 12:18 pm to
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I'm IBEW. From what I've been told by roadies, California is one of a few states where you have to take a state-specific code test, FWIW.



Pretty standard in many parts of the country - IBEW members are often exempted due to the level of education they possess. Many times the job is also exempted....for example any project funded by federal money and not subject to local inspection jurisdiction will normally be exempt from local licensing requirements. Just about all the states on the west coast and inland to about Utah require a local license to take a referral from the hall. I do not think Colorado does but New Mexico does. This is also common in the NE and midwest. It is less common in the south and RTW midwest because it would mean that the people doing the work would have to be smart enough to pass an exam and many "electricians" in the south and RTW midwest would struggle to do so even when given the answers...trust me, I have seen it first hand NUMEROUS times.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 12:36 pm to
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Two different things… electrician who does actual work vs owner of said company who employs electricians… I think you are making the assumption that said owner should be competent in electrician work… that would be nice but it ain’t a requirement



In most states the contractor license holder who qualifies the business....and by qualifying the business all that is meant is they can apply for a permit when a permit is required...has to meet a standard established by other contractors in the industry who have a vested interest in limiting competition. Most professional state licensing boards around the US consist of individuals doing business in the industry and their main focus is limiting competition, not ensuring consumer protection. Many jurisdictions require a master / contractor licensee to pull permits (more typically contractors license today instead of master because most states have determined that master is a trade classification that the state is not qualified to bestow) AND the person actually doing the work has to have a license, usually a journeyman license but again many states have walked back using that term for the same reasons they no longer use master....they are trade terms that the state is not qualified to bestow on an individual and the licensing boards are loathe to use them because they are used by labor unions and it legitimizes labor unions....something the licensing boards, for the most part, can't abide by lest they actually have to pay someone a living wage.


At the end of the day ALL professional licensing is a barrier to entry and the sole purpose for professional licensing to exist at all is to limit competition. I have. currently, at least 4 state electrical contracting licenses, several journeyman licenses, one master license. 2 General Contractor licenses, 2 conditioned air state licenses and 2 low voltage electrical licenses....none of them are any indication of my competence in anything other than filling out the application to sit the exam and sitting the exam and passing the exam....if I screw something up the licensing board which granted me entry into their little kingdom is in no way responsible....they face the same risk as a bird flying by....
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 3/4/25 at 12:40 pm to
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I'm IBEW.


If you fish to survive get your woms from Local 995.....

Just kidding. I kid my red stick brothers and sisters....but seriously if you need a large supply of worms you'd be hard pressed to find more of them than you'd find in Baton Rouge....
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
38692 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 3:40 pm to
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It is less common in the south and RTW midwest because it would mean that the people doing the work would have to be smart enough to pass an exam and many "electricians" in the south and RTW midwest would struggle to do so even when given the answers...trust me, I have seen it first hand NUMEROUS times.


That's funny, because I've also been told by roadies out of my local that when they travel, they have to slow their roll down to keep from making the book 1 guys from looking bad.

I'm not 995, but I am from Baton Rouge. I don't know anything about them, but we're expected to work our asses off in my local.
Posted by Lofaso
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
48 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 5:15 pm to
Most people are SHOCKED when they find out that I am nota good electrician.
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