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re: Who here is against St George?

Posted on 2/11/14 at 2:54 pm to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133507 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 2:54 pm to
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The event cost was $50,000, plus $40,000 for the light stick. I don't know how much sponsorship money they brought in

100% of the funds generated for the event were donated by corporate sponsors.

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, but I haven't seen anything saying it was profitable.
Based on your posts in this thread, you haven't seen anything.....PERIOD.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133507 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:05 pm to
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but unless you have some data stating legacy costs are in excess of 20.5million
That's the point, moron, no one has even attempted to estimate the legacy costs. Your crooked politician friends organizing SG don't want you to know how much it would cost.

But $20.5 million is less than 3% of one year's total EBR budget and the population of St George is approximately 25% of the population of EBR.

The Green Light program alone has spent almost $400 million in the SG area over the past 5 years. I sure as hell don't want SG walking away with those improvements and not get some of my money back. Then there were 3 new schools built over the last 4 years, but those school legacy costs are separate from the general governmental costs.

I'd say a good figure to start with for negotiating general governmental legacy costs would be $300-$350 million payable in three equal annual installments, please.
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
3155 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:07 pm to
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Developers, individuals or civic associations who push for annexing land into the city must petition those who will be affected. That includes a majority—more than 50%—of registered voters and property owners in the area, including owners whose property accounts for 25% of the area's value. The Metro Council then gives final approval.
LINK


So like we said, Russian is wrong on the annexation. The city can't arbitrarily do it.
Posted by HotMama79
Member since Sep 2012
294 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:10 pm to
Zachary did not suffer from extensive busing issues b/c of their location in the parish. So the 'neighborhood schools' were intact - you know - so that made it much easier for parents, and the entire community to have been involved even before they formed their own school system.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:12 pm to
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So like we said, Russian is wrong on the annexation. The city can't arbitrarily do it.



I think you need to check your reading comprehension, because what I posted is exactly what Russian said.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
34871 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:12 pm to
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Zachary did not suffer from extensive busing issues b/c of their location in the parish. So the 'neighborhood schools' were intact - you know - so that made it much easier for parents, and the entire community to have been involved even before they formed their own school system



Ok, not entirely true at all, but what does that have to do with St. George schools now?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133507 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:12 pm to
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Post a link to your facts. The annexation was discussed on several news websites and they all said this.
I have posted a link multiple times in other SG threads to the EBR ordinance which describes the steps of the incorporation process.

There are two processes available.

1) For primarily residential areas, there is a petition process where a majority of property owners must sign and request incorporation. If that % is reached, the council rubber stamps the petition and the area is incorporated.

2) For primarily non-residential property areas, the process is as I described it above.

I don't feel like googling it again and posting it just because you want it. If you're sincere about knowing, you'll google it yourself and read it. If you're not sincere, I sure don't want to waste my time satisfying you.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133507 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:13 pm to
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$250,000 for economic development
That is probably split 50-50 between Bodi White and Bill Rainey.
Posted by HotMama79
Member since Sep 2012
294 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:15 pm to
I believe the EBR School Board and its leadership have had over 30 years to improve the system. I do not blame St. George for wanting to leave a failing system. They care about their children's education, plain and simple.
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
3155 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:15 pm to
whatever the legacy costs are as of a certain date, we are only due to pay a share of them. Assuming your screwed up revenue math was correct, St.George would onlyneed tto pay 10-25% of that based on revenue contribution, moron.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133507 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:16 pm to
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It's sad, all this effort spent on establishing a new city could have been spent directly on influencing the School Board and its leadership in a positive manner.
This. Since the St George effort started I've made it a point to see how many SG organizer's speak at school board public hearings.

It's been easy to keep track of..............ZERO.
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
Member since Nov 2013
4859 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:16 pm to
If the pro BR people are so sure, then shut the F*** Up. Quit trying to convince everybody that BR is well-managed.

Truth is, the pro-BR people know it's going to happen, and they skeered.

Go St. George. Onward, for change.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:16 pm to
The system failed because of the busing. Those who didn't want their kid bused sent them to private school in their neighborhood.

The federal regulations forcing busing are over. Why don't these people work together?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133507 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:21 pm to
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The city can't arbitrarily do it.

There is nothing arbitrary about the process I described. It's a 1) petition,2) posting of public hearing, 3) hearing, 4) vote process. It's spelled out by an existing ordinance.

From the ordinance I read directly from the EBR ordinance website, I disagree with the Business Report's interpretation of what is required when the land area is primarily commercial property.

I'm still waiting for you to explain your comment that 60% of taxes in EBR come from St George.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
34871 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:21 pm to
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The system failed because of the busing. Those who didn't want their kid bused sent them to private school in their neighborhood. The federal regulations forcing busing are over. Why don't these people work together



Too much effort to take an active role in the school. They are too lazy to participate in any school activities outside of the occasional parent teacher meeting.

Above poster missed the point of my Zachary post
Posted by HotMama79
Member since Sep 2012
294 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:21 pm to
You're the one that said the St. George parents should get involved with their children's school - like the Zachary parents - the Zachary parents were not faced with the challenge of being involved in a school located across town from where they live. They were lucky they still had their neighborhood schools.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
34871 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:22 pm to
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You're the one that said the St. George parents should get involved with their children's school - like the Zachary parents - the Zachary parents were not faced with the challenge of being involved in a school located across town from where they live. They were lucky they still had their neighborhood schools


What does that have to do with now?
Posted by lapistola
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2008
988 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:23 pm to
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It's sad, all this effort spent on establishing a new city could have been spent directly on influencing the School Board and its leadership in a positive manner.


This

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Since the St George effort started I've made it a point to see how many SG organizer's speak at school board public hearings.

It's been easy to keep track of..............ZERO.


And this.

Any question as to whether they'll be there after it fails?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133507 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:24 pm to
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I believe the EBR School Board and its leadership have had over 30 years to improve the system.
For over 40 years of the last 50 years, the EBR school board has not been in charge of the school system. Your federal government called the shots.

Only since the start of the 2009 school year has the EBR school board been able to act on salvaging the schools from the disaster of the Fed court's destruction of the system.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58278 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:24 pm to
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This is the longest thread Ive ever started. But to all who are for St George, frick you. I want my niece to go to BRMHS.
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