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re: Who here is against St George?

Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:16 am to
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:16 am to
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Need to maintain your faux French Acadian 3/2, right?


Not so much. I'll live in a doublewide in orange county before I'll let myself continue to fund KIPland.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:26 am to
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before I'll let myself continue to fund KIPland.

Somehow this always gets related back to Kip. I wonder why?
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:39 am to
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Somehow this always gets related back to Kip. I wonder why?


I wonder if it's not as much racial as it is the fact that Kip is trying to invest in downtown, and the suburbanite mentality is completely oblivious to why anyone would think that's a net positive for the city, or why in the world anyone would think high density urban living is a thing to be desired. I mean, it's not as if the rest of the world's most valuable and desirable real estate is in their cities.


How many tractor trailers does it take to move Tiger Stadium?

That's really what St. George people should do.... Put some wheels under those houses. That way you and Tiger Stadium can become a big band of gypsies... Like a traveling circus if you like.

Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:47 am to
I voted for Kip....once.

I live in the extreme S.E. portion of the parish. I do much of my spending in prairieville. Downtown doesnt interest me much and it serves no benefit to me. When I saw the giant LED stick Kipster bought for new years I was pissed. I relate very little to downtown BR, and much of St.George feels similarly.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:49 am to
Where do all these st. George people work?

And take a look at where the project greenlight investment has been and tell me kip doesn't care about st. George
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:50 am to
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I live in the extreme S.E. portion of the parish. I do much of my spending in prairieville. Downtown doesnt interest me much and it serves no benefit to me



Pure unadulterated awesomeness right here.

You live in EBRP, fund Prarieville (AP) and don't understand why your downtown is valuable, because it's condition isn't valuable, so it shouldn't be valued.



I do appreciate your honesty though.


This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 11:51 am
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:54 am to
What is strange about shopping at the nearest stores, or dining at the closest restaurants? I spend plenty in EBRP. Am i supposed to go spend time and money downtown just for the sake of some civic duty? I
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133507 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:55 am to
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The choice to me seems to be a slowly decaying East Baton Rouge tax base for the city of Baton Rouge to suck dry
This statement is so far from the actual facts it's laughable.

I don't understand why you think you can sit in Memphis and make such incorrect statements as if they are factual without you having the first bit of knowledge about the situation.

I hope you're just willfully uninformed and not being dishonest about it.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133507 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:57 am to
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Let the flood of people to ascension and Livingston continue, and eventually BR will be nothing but LSU and ghettos.



Interesting because the wealthy were moving into the Parish. While the lower middle class were leaving.

Yeah, those darn facts keep getting in the way of the SG drama queens.....
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:58 am to
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What is strange about shopping at the nearest stores, or dining at the closest restaurants? I spend plenty in EBRP. Am i supposed to go spend time and money downtown just for the sake of some civic duty? I


Civic duty?

You live in East BR Parish, fund Assension Parish, and don't understand why it would benefit you to fund your own parish where you live, or downtown BR in your own parish where you live.



I live in a fixer upper, but I am funding the remodel at my neighbor's fixer upper, and don't see why remodeling my own kitchen would serve me.

Posted by LloydChristmas
in a van down by the river
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:58 am to

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take a look at where the project greenlight investment has been and tell me kip doesn't care about st. George


Wasn't the original issue related to schools and test scores? So much has been thrown around, I am trying to make sure (serious question-not trying to be a j/a)

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133507 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:58 am to
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It was.



So it's not the peoples fault for not wanting their kids bused and moving them to private schools. It was the system that effed BR up.
And now the forced busing is over.
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
20621 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:03 pm to
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St George better start building their Berlinesque wall now complete with guard towers, 50 cal. Machine gun nests, moats and alligators, and check points if they hope to stave off the mass influx of people from BR that will be making their way there to get in the school district. And you're NOT going to stop section 8 and tax credit. It's already there.

The Baby Boomers Last Stand.....

This whole area is stuck on dumb.

You will do nothing but create a big nasty infrastructure mess in BR, even lower population density and more crime infestation to boot, that without a giant wall to keep yourself isolated WILL be bleeding over as it always does. This has all the makings of making Baton Rouge a Welfare city on life support. In other words, your next door neighbor is going to be a trailer park ghetto. Get it?



The same people are doing the same dumb things thinking they can run from this, and evacuating whole areas in the process, but alas, I'm sure this will also be called growth rather than relocation.

I have absolutely ZERO faith in you St. George people, because the only pattern you demonstrate is a pattern of not understanding your very own assets, your community, and a consistent display of retardation in everything from zoning to street layout, to everything that is currently Baton Rouge, because quite simply put, You are the ones who helped create the mess in the first place.

Guess what.... Like everything else, this is going to be a huge failure, because it's founded in stupid nonsense, and divides a city that needs to get its head out of its arse.

Let me demonstrate... In other areas of the country, the trend is to move back to your urban areas, and reclaim what others threw away, but not here. It's the complete opposite, AS USUAL. Pulling up the arse end of things and going in reverse. Hell surprise..





I've been waiting for you to jump in these threads. What took you so long?

With regard to your last point, fortunately there has been a lot of progress made in recent years to revitalize blighted urban areas, particularly in downtown, mid-city, and old south BR. Of course, a lot of St. George supporters don't see this as progress at all, even though it is the most conservative approach towards growth since the infrastructure and more efficient traffic grid is already there and in place.

I think a lot of these people don't realize that if there is large disinvestment and decay in the city of Baton Rouge that the same problems that they are "escaping" could eventually be right back on their door step.
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
3155 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:03 pm to
So again, you're saying I have a duty to spend money in my own parish? Why should I care about downtown? You could pump money into any area of the parish and accomplish the same thing.
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
3155 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:05 pm to
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Let the flood of people to ascension and Livingston continue, and eventually BR will be nothing but LSU and ghettos.



Interesting because the wealthy were moving into the Parish. While the lower middle class were leaving.
Yeah, those darn facts keep getting in the way of the SG drama queens.....



Back that up with facts and citations or GTFO
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133507 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:09 pm to
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Back that up with facts and citations or GTFO

It was backed up with a link earlier in this thread.

Population in EBR declined from 2007 to 2013. But the majority of those persons leaving the parish were the lower income, displaced Katrina evacuees relocating either back home or to somewhere else.

The majority of persons relocating TO EBR during that time period were higher income professionals.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40081 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:12 pm to
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LSURussian

You're making it more and more difficult for people to blindly shite on Old Baton Rouge with your "facts". You should probably cut it out.
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
20621 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:15 pm to
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Why should I care about downtown?


It the living room of the city, where a lot of residents come to work and play. It's the first thing most outsiders coming into the city will visit and judge. It is important for business recruitment and economic development.

From an infrastructure standpoint, it makes a lot more sense to invest in making downtown a viable place to live, as opposed to having more growth occur in outlying areas.

The young, educated professionals that Baton Rouge so badly needs to attract prefer vibrant urban areas.

Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:22 pm to
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You could pump money into any area of the parish and accomplish the same thing


Two things...

First we have to get you and yours to understand why it's important to at least spend money in your own parish

And secondly

We have to get you to understand what a vibrant downtown means to the area in attraction for people visiting the area.

They already have Wal Marts where they live. A vibrant downtown with local restaurants, nightlife, and shite to do is a draw. The same draw can be found in every city, well almost every city that isn't in this bass ackwards region.

What you really need to do is move someplace cool for a little, come back and the scales will fall off of your eye balls.

Or at the very least, maybe next vacation, instead of Destin or Houston, go somewhere you haven't been outside of this region and take in what life could be like if you could have even a little bit of vision outside of what you know and think is normal.

Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:22 pm to
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Back that up with facts and citations or GTFO

Rich coming from a St. Georgian. Why don't you provide everyone with a reliable estimation of all the tax increases required to initially establish St. George and then to operate it going forward.
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