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re: White males should be denied right to vote for 20 years.

Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:36 am to
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17107 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:36 am to
Just remember, these are the kinds of people the left points to every election season when they point out that their candidates win more "educated" voters. Masters of philosophy who is deemed credible and sane enough to write columns for the Huffington Post right here folks. Sooooo educated and smart.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42968 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:36 am to
50k effective tax rate should be right around 15% with proper deductions...
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49083 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:36 am to
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Sounds like Fox News to me - yea, they pay a large amount but a much smaller percentage of their income.

A white male with a $10,000,000 income pays $1,000,000, yes, that is more than the black working man who pays $20,000 in taxes on his $50,000 income.

But look at the percentages.

These are the facts.


You are comparing two completely different things - income tax and capital gains tax.

Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33051 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:37 am to
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We need more social science education in the schools and not just to those students who already understand equity and fairness.


Re-education camps via mandatory university curriculum.

Progressive- check
Totalitarian- check
Hateful and prejudiced- check
Uncomfortable with the existence of opposing views- check
Supports reeducation camps- check

This is the modern Democratic Party. This isn't liberalism. This is totalitarianism.
This post was edited on 4/14/17 at 9:40 am
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29503 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:37 am to
These people are slowly digging their own graves.

Any societal shift is followed by an equal, if not greater, shift in the other direction.

We are 10-15 years away from white people standing up and saying "ENOUGH"

Five years ago, I would have called them racists. 10 years from now, I will likely stand with them.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42968 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:37 am to
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It is not the amount, it is the percentage. And it is a proven fact that the uber wealthy pay a much smaller percentage of their income AND it is an equally proven fact that nothing "trickles down."


Again, can you buy the same amount of things with 20k in your pocket opposed to 1 mil?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466237 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:37 am to
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You do understand that "equality and dignity of each human being" is the primary focus of progressives.

if that's true, why do so many promote redistribution policies that steal property from others?
Posted by Puck82
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23948 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:37 am to
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Show me the taxpayer with millions in income who actually pays more than 20%???????????


Rachel Maddow already did that for me. Trump paid close to 25%. Your move
Posted by misstery
Member since Apr 2017
134 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:39 am to
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You are comparing two completely different things - income tax and capital gains tax.


I have to go out riding so I'll end the argument with this:

You are correct, in a way, but here's the unpopular truth - we need a wealth tax. No one should have a net worth of ONE BILLION (or for that matter 1/2 BILLION).

Some wrestling guy has ONE BILLION. We should tax that wealth to create jobs. He's not - he's hording his wealth as most of the uber wealthy do, or trying to find a way to cheat working people out of their jobs.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:39 am to
quote:

misstery


Look, the tax codes are complex and unfairly favorable to the rich. I don't expect you to fully understand or have a reasonable argument against it. Luckily for people like you, there are educated white, male liberals like me who can actually make arguments for your side. So it's probably best if you stay out of it and just offer moral support, your race baiting doesn't help (although we appreciate your passion). Thanks in advance.
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
65300 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:39 am to
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What is outlined above are totalitarian progressive ideals.


Yes. Exactly like National Socialism and Communism. People like that are a dangerous bunch.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466237 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:39 am to
quote:

they pay a large amount but a much smaller percentage of their income.

and?

and what about the 45% who pay nothing? they also receive the lion's share of benefits. how are they paying their "fair share" when they receive exponentially more than they contribute?
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:40 am to
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that is more than the black working man who pays $20,000 in taxes on his $50,000 income.


Uhh... huh?
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72214 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:40 am to
quote:

Show me the taxpayer with millions in income who actually pays more than 20%???????????





You're not serious with this shite, right? You cant be that stupid can you?
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42968 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:40 am to
quote:

I have to go out riding so I'll end the argument with this:

You are correct, in a way, but here's the unpopular truth - we need a wealth tax. No one should have a net worth of ONE BILLION (or for that matter 1/2 BILLION).

Some wrestling guy has ONE BILLION. We should tax that wealth to create jobs. He's not - he's hording his wealth as most of the uber wealthy do, or trying to find a way to cheat working people out of their jobs.


Vince Kennedy McMahon was one failed event away from being on the damn street.

GTFO here with that non-sense.

His company helps reach millions of people GLOBALLY.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:40 am to
quote:

No one should have a net worth of ONE BILLION


Why not?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466237 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:41 am to
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In fairness, those graphs are pretty misleading. They show earned income tax rates. When you consider that most wealthy people don't work for their money and pay lower tax rates on capital gains, it is a valid argument that the wealthiest contribute the least in taxes, respectively.

if you frick with capital gains, the middle class will be destroyed b/c that's their primary vehicle of investment. the entire point of a lower capital gains rate is to encourage investment. remove that incentive and investments become much less valuable, which is not an optimal solution for that non-rich
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72214 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:41 am to
quote:

Sounds like Fox News to me - yea, they pay a large amount but a much smaller percentage of their income.

A white male with a $10,000,000 income pays $1,000,000, yes, that is more than the black working man who pays $20,000 in taxes on his $50,000 income.

But look at the percentages.

These are the facts.





I retract my questions. You are that fricking stupid.
Posted by Puck82
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23948 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:42 am to
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he's hording his wealth as most of the uber wealthy do, or trying to find a way to cheat working people out of their jobs


You do realize that wealth isn't a finite resource?
Posted by GregMaddux
LSU Fan
Member since Jun 2011
18628 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:42 am to
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black working man who pays $20,000 in taxes on his $50,000 income.



Is this about you? If so you need to get someone else to do your taxes.
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