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At the end of the day, who are the patients going to sue when the computer messes up? Someone has to be held accountable. When a human element is involved that physician is undertaking a certain amount of risk.

The patients will be free to sue the designer/manufacturers/owners/operators just like any medical device that exists now. Unless we are forced into full blown socialism, this technology will only be created and used if it is profitable for the manufacturers and users.

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Posted by flyAU

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Posted on 2/1/19 at 12:41 pm to Areddishfish

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The AI would have to be pretty advanced. There are times when all the symptoms point to one thing but there are small nuances that completely change the diagnosis. I was going to be a PA once, but even I knew that the knowledge you get from med school and residency just puts you on another level knowledge wise. And, given that PA need a doctor to write scripts in Louisiana, I don't see them replacing them any time soon. Some nurse practitioners are good but as a nurse you are more so told what to do then to critically think the situation out. I've met some nurses that are head and shoulders above the others, but the average nurse isn't on the same level as a doctor. Mid levels are often ones that think they are on the doctor's level but didn't go to med school.

Think of “House” type of knowledge on a faster non-drug dependent scale.

The amount of data being collected would need to be upped dramatically. Think: area air sensors, water sensors, collecting data on who buys what from where and where that country/state/farm that food comes from. Add in genetic testing, imaging, molecular, chemistry and histology and you will eclipse the best doctor out there.

This scares the shite out of me, but this is the vision for the future of healthcare.

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Posted by lostinbr

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Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:08 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz

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Engineering will be the dead last thing that AI will be able to replicate. The creativity needed for proper engineering will be incredibly difficult to replicate.

I think engineering is a perfect case study for how technology will augment and (to a point) displace humans.

There was a time when computers couldn’t do calculus. They technically still can’t “solve” calculus problems in a traditional sense, but computers have enough processing power now to use numerical methods to solve very complex equations in seconds, when the “traditional” math would take a human hours.

The result? Engineers don’t do calculus anymore. Does that mean there’s not a need for engineers? Of course not. But it DOES mean that a single engineer is much more productive than 30 years ago. That’s the way I see AI affecting other highly technical fields. For example, I doubt there will be a sudden decrease in demand for radiologists. Seems more likely to me that there will be a steady increase in productivity, which may or may not affect demand over time depending on many other variables.

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Posted by Cs

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Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:16 pm to Bjorn Cyborg

AI systems are prime replacements for physicians and medical professionals, given that medicine largely revolves around the application of algorithmic decision making on large informational databases.

The difference is that while a physician retains about 10% of what they learn in medical school, a cloud based AI system can access all the medical information in existence, including research studies, protocols, and all previous statistical outcomes, and then apply algorithmic diagnoses and treatment modalities based on those data. A human simply can't compare.

While medicine may become more impersonal, outcomes are likely to improve along with lowered overall costs.

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