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re: Where do we draw the line between mentally ill or a bad person/criminal?

Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by Tunasntigers92
The Boot
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:21 pm to
Mentally ill people are trashy? You sound fricking brilliant...
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85485 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:28 pm to
Mental Illness is the new lazy excuse for assholes doing a-hole things. Mental health funding is the new panacea for society’s ills.

The vast majority of criminals are assholes who are also drug heads. Very few are legitimately mentally unbalanced to the point they don’t know right from wrong.
Posted by LSUperior
Member since Aug 2009
1242 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:29 pm to
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Mental Illness is the new lazy excuse for assholes doing a-hole things.

This...
Posted by LSUperior
Member since Aug 2009
1242 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:33 pm to
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Mentally ill people are trashy? You sound fricking brilliant...

Go read my post again idiot. I stated it was the people who worked the system claiming to be mentally ill...unless you're one of them.
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 1:35 pm
Posted by Tunasntigers92
The Boot
Member since Sep 2014
28325 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:34 pm to
You said people diagnosed with a mental illness
Posted by Paige
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Member since Oct 2010
85640 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:43 pm to
What a stupid post

You’re stereotyping the majority of people suffering from mental illness based on one person who according to your post is not even mentally ill?

Epilepsy is not a mental illness at all
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:48 pm to

I'm almost certain most replies will be less than sympathetic to what you are trying to say. Truth is, TD is riddled with exactly the type of person you are with respect to a relative who is completely in need of help but not many will admit it. We all have that relative(s).

Let's just cut to the chase and say jail isn't rehabilitation. Largely, ignoring symptoms, behavior, economics etc is the easiest way "we" know to deal with "it". Out of sight out of mind so to speak. Then, we love to blame others - like "the system" - when they are in and out of jail and cause other issues.

Let's face it. America is absolutely terrible in handling troubled children, teens, young adults and adults re: mental health.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
22344 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:56 pm to
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She has also always been mentally ill. Bipolar depression, antisocial personality disorder, to name a couple. This is why I have always been of the opinion that it was never the drugs that were the problem, that was merely a cover up of the underlying conditions. The drugs were always addressed, the underlying conditions seldom.. From an early age she exhibited these types of behaviors; lashing out, etc...


Speaking from experience, both personal and watching 2 family members off themselves: Drugs are a way to cope with mental illness. They are a grasp at some temporary sanity and quiet when a person has a tornado inside their mind that they cannot quiet.

That being said, mental illness is no excuse for committing crimes. She needs help and consequences. She won't ever get better until SHE wants to. Not because a judge says so. Honestly, a stay in the clink might do her more good than a nice bed in the psych ward. Severe real world consequences can "wake" up a person with a cloudy mind to the point of wanting to get better.

Best of luck. Counseling, proper meds and a will to do better is what she needs.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
86142 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:57 pm to
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Let's face it. America is absolutely terrible in handling troubled children, teens, young adults and adults re: mental health.


Well, to be fair, let's face this. There are millions of mentally ill persons that don't commit crimes. You can be mentally ill, know the difference between right and wrong, and choose to commit crime. To blame it all on the illness is a cop out as well.
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