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re: When did you first become aware of your privilege?

Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:50 am to
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:50 am to
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don't we have plenty of data that says kids in 2-parent households generally have the best outcomes?


Yes.

But that’s not privilege. Those kids are not gifted the better outcomes simply because they are born to two, married parents. The end results are the positive consequences of decades of decision-making. That’s earned, not granted.

Posted by ccomeaux
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:50 am to
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Work, not Woke
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:51 am to
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what? Where did this come from?


So now we are going to pretend that meta-narrative around “privilege” is not white privileged?
This post was edited on 8/5/20 at 11:52 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:51 am to
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Those kids are not gifted the better outcomes simply because they are born to two, married parents. The end results are the positive consequences of decades of decision-making. That’s earned, not granted.



but those kids were not part of those decisions, so I'm not sure how you can say those kids were not gifted the outcomes

Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:52 am to
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priv·i·lege a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group.



Again, the "privilege narrative" in 2020 is code for "hate whitey".

Not having babies out of wedlock, finishing school, working hard and NOT being a general fkup are not special rights available to a particular group, they are choices.

No two situations are exactly the same, so EVERYONE could sit in a pool of their own tears and make excuses for their station in life.

Successful people create their own "luck", they don't sit and bitch about the lack of luck....
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:53 am to
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don't we have plenty of data that says kids in 2-parent households generally have the best outcomes?

And there is little to no difference among the outcomes by race. There's just a fairly wide gap in the percentage of single parent homes.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:53 am to
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So now we are going to pretend that meta-narrative around “privilege” is not white privileged?


That's exactly what it is in 2020, to claim otherwise is simply stupid or dishonest.
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:54 am to
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but those kids were not part of those decisions, so I'm not sure how you can say those kids were not gifted the outcomes



Are you really trying to argue the default family model for pretty much the entirety of western civilization (and a good chunk of the rest of the world) is a "privilege"?

C'mon man.
Posted by Dissident Aggressor
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:54 am to
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Everytime a cop pulls me over for speeding, then lets me go with a warning.


yep,
got pulled over the other day by angry dark blue cop.
he says " DO YOU KNOW HOW FAST YOU WERE GOING"?
Im like "no Sir, I wasnt paying attention".
"ATEY FIVE, IN A 60"!
after dressing me down for a few minutes and seeing that my documentation was in order, he told me to "SLOW THE TRUCK DOWN" and let me go...
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:55 am to
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Are you really trying to argue the default family model for pretty much the entirety of western civilization (and a good chunk of the rest of the world) is a "privilege"?


why not?

unless you are the type to define "privilege" as always a bad thing, which seems silly to me
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:55 am to
When my butler was pulled over in his Ferrari for doing 140 in a 55 and got off with a warning because the cop realized who he works for
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:56 am to
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And there is little to no difference among the outcomes by race. There's just a fairly wide gap in the percentage of single parent homes.


I haven't brought up race a single time in this thread
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:56 am to
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Are you really trying to argue the default family model for pretty much the entirety of western civilization (and a good chunk of the rest of the world) is a "privilege"?



Does the child have any choice in it?
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:56 am to
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So now we are going to pretend that meta-narrative around “privilege” is not white privileged?
I’m not concerned with the msnbc
narrative on privilege
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:57 am to
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but those kids were not part of those decisions, so I'm not sure how you can say those kids were not gifted the outcomes


Maybe not at first but that child ends up becoming the decision maker as they move on adolescence. And it’s still earned even if others are the ones instilling the underlying values that result in the success.

Is Tom Brady “privileged” because he had a great HC? frick no. No one with any sense would argue that.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:57 am to
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I haven't brought up race a single time in this thread


I even directly stated it’s a class thing not a race thing, but to the surprise of no one, not a single one of them replied.
Posted by Redbone
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:57 am to
I slowly became aware starting somewhere around 1960.
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Anyone care to share their story of their path and maybe the circumstances that triggered their enlightenment?
White only signs on restrooms, water fountains, restaurants, .... The school my black friends attended were obviously substandard as compared to the one I attended.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:57 am to
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unless you are the type to define "privilege" as always a bad thing, which seems silly to me


You are being obtuse or you are REALLY one dumb sombitch.

The "privilege" thang in 2020 is MOST CERTAINLY being defined as a bad thing by the racist idiots on the Left promoting it.

Stop your bullshite, man.....
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:59 am to
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Maybe not at first but that child ends up becoming the decision maker as they move on adolescence. And it’s still earned even if others are the ones instilling the underlying values that result in the success.


well this is where we are going to just disagree

and this is more to do with my beliefs on determinism, moreso than privilege
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:00 pm to
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I even directly stated it’s a class thing


I would argue that class is the end result not the catalyst.

People don’t fail because they are low class. They are low class because they fail.
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