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re: When did you first become aware of your privilege?

Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:23 pm to
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if privilege is multiple generations consecutively following that pattern - then yes, I am privileged and proud of it.



I don't know why more people can't have this attitude
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:23 pm to
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if privilege is multiple generations consecutively following that pattern - then yes, I am privileged and proud of it. this is a proven process that can lead anyone to success in this country. pretty straight forward, but apparently is a struggle for many.


You should be proud of it. And those who don’t have it should strive to create it to pass onto their children and grandchildren.

Privilege is a good thing and shouldn’t be treated like it isn’t.
This post was edited on 8/5/20 at 1:24 pm
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:24 pm to
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You should be proud of it. And those who don’t have it should strive to create it to pass onto their children and grandchildren.



you fricking SJW...marxist...statism...otherism
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:24 pm to
me, TH03, and Salmon all agreeing on a topic in one thread. 2020 is fricking wild.
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:25 pm to
You guys are all wrong
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by bhtigerfan
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:28 pm to
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Would they be as triggered if we called it an “advantage”?
You can call it whatever the frick you want.

But having two parents is nothing anyone should feel guilty about or apologize for. I have empathy for those born to single parent homes, or into an orphanage like a previous poster. There are numerous examples of people from single parent homes or orphaned that lead a good, productive and successful life. Just like there are numerous examples of people from two parent homes that are complete failures in life.

Bottom line, neither is a guarantee of success or a curse of failure. Life is what you make of it.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:28 pm to
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But having two parents is nothing anyone should feel guilty about or apologize for.


Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:30 pm to
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But having two parents is nothing anyone should feel guilty about or apologize for.
read the thread. NO ONE is saying you should do this.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:31 pm to
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Bottom line, neither is a guarantee of success or a curse of failure. Life is what you make of it.


People who never had to struggle simply project their experience on everyone else. Secular guilt is more powerful that religious guilt.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:37 pm to
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me, TH03, and Salmon all agreeing on a topic in one thread. 2020 is fricking wild.


Posted by bhtigerfan
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:38 pm to
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This is misguided thinking. The term "privilege" by its very nature implies something that is unearned, some perquisite that arbitrarily and automatically attaches to a certain rank or class. But growing up in a stable environment is anything but arbitrary and automatic. Stable homes do not spring up out of thin air of their own accord. Rather, they are the direct product of the hard work and discipline and talent of the parents involved. And in turn, those parents may have benefitted from the hard work and discipline and talents of their own parents. And their parents before them. And so on down the generations. If you trace the geneology far enough, you typically encounter one of two patterns: (1) a prodigy who made a quantum leap in socioeconomic and educational status during a single lifetime, which benefitted all of his or her heirs; (2) incremental, cumulative improvement in socioeconomic status from generation to generation, which benefits each newly born set of children. Most Americans, even wealthy Americans, can trace their family lines back to the humble circumstance of immigrants or poor laborers. Few are those who descend from the gilded royalty of the Mayflower. When a child is born into a stable home, he or she isn't experiencing some unearned and random "privilege," but is instead inheriting the sweat from the brows of his or her forefathers, the accumulation of decades or centuries of toil and deliberation and effort and study and advancement and luck and perseverance. Growing up in stable home where education and accomplishment and character are prioritized may be an advantage, but it is not a privilege. No one should be forced to renounce the hard won legacy of their ancestors. Nor should it be ripped from them by government action, sophistry, or public shaming.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:41 pm to
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But having two parents is nothing anyone should feel guilty about or apologize for.


No one here thinks you should.

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Bottom line, neither is a guarantee of success or a curse of failure. Life is what you make of it.


No one here will disagree with this either.

To use another sports metaphor, it’s like when 2 teams are about to play and 1 is obviously better than the other on paper. Does that mean they are guaranteed to win and can’t lose? No, that’s why we play the game. Rich kids who are born on third base fail all the time.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:44 pm to
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Rich kids who are born on third base fail all the time.
See Knight Oil
Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:50 pm to
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Rich kids who are born on third base fail all the time.


It always comes down to penis envy and jealousy about money with you Leftists, dunnit'.......
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:52 pm to
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It always comes down to penis envy and jealousy about money with you Leftists, dunnit'.......


says the person who literally used the "rick kid" analogy earlier to illustrate advantages
Posted by bhtigerfan
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:58 pm to
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Having two parents isn’t a “privilege” you fricking moron.


Explain how it isn't. Use data.
Because the literal definition of “privilege” says “an advantage available only to a particular person or group.“ Two parent households are available to all races and socioeconomic groups.

Like Roger said, y’all have completely fricking distorted the word privilege just like racist.


Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 2:01 pm to
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Two parent households are available to all races and socioeconomic groups.


Yeah. Never argued otherwise.

Racial and socioeconomic are not the only 2 types of groups either FWIW

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Like Roger said, y’all have completely fricking distorted the word privilege just like racist.


I just go by the literal definition

I do get a kick how all of you continually try to force race into this discussion.

This post was edited on 8/5/20 at 2:03 pm
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 2:02 pm to
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Two parent households are available to all races and socioeconomic groups.


If 2 parent households are available to all, why do 1 parent households exist? And if all children have 2 parent households as an option, why don’t these dumb kids pick those instead of poor single mom households?

And why do you people keep making it about race? Race doesn’t matter.
This post was edited on 8/5/20 at 2:03 pm
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