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re: When did you first become aware of your privilege?

Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:09 pm to
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So you believe that heritable traits like intelligence or athleticism are "special" advantages that are "available only" to certain groups? That's interesting.


Well yeah. Those groups or individuals that have those traits

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But the question becomes: what accounts for that advantage.


Right. Literally my entire point in this thread.

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And the only true answer is that the advantage is predominantly a product of the hard work, talents, discipline, and sacrifices of the parents and other ancestors.


Yes.

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No one should be forced to repudiate the hard won advantages of their families, nor the fruits of their own labors.


Never argued otherwise.

Posted by TH03
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:09 pm to
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Both you and TH3 have effectively made "privilege" synonymous with "advantage."


No, we didn’t.

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No one should be forced to repudiate the hard won advantages of their families, nor the fruits of their own labors.


Did anyone say otherwise?

You have issues with reading.
Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:10 pm to
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Both you and TH3 have effectively made "privilege" synonymous with "advantage."




As I said, semantic bullzhit and arguing for the sake of arguing.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:12 pm to
Yet, you just can't stay away.

Fascinating.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:13 pm to
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Both you and TH3 have effectively made "privilege" synonymous with "advantage."


It's the modern route to idiocy. Every SJW has bought into this.
Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:13 pm to
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Did anyone say otherwise?


Yes, the people that created the false "privilege" narrative did and that's what people are commenting on.
Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:14 pm to
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Yet, you just can't stay away.


That's because you and your alter are like a dog turd in a very nice punch bowl.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:15 pm to
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It's the modern route to idiocy. Every SJW has bought into this.


Could you be any more of a broken record replaying the same 3 or 4 things over and over?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:15 pm to
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Yes, the people that created the false "privilege" narrative did and that's what people are commenting on.



maybe bring that up to those people?
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:15 pm to
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Yes, the people that created the false "privilege" narrative did and that's what people are commenting on.


So...no one here?
Posted by DmitriKaramazov
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:15 pm to
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No, we didn’t.


Yes, you did. The dictionary definition of privilege requires that there be a "special" advantage that is "available only" to one group. Stable homes are not "available only" to one group. In your view, anything that confers an advantage is a "privilege." Salmon conceded above that he even considers genetic traits such as memory and physique to be "privileges," even those those traits occur across all groups. You've redefined privilege to be advantage. Which is fine. But moots the argument.
Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:15 pm to
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Could you be any more of a broken record replaying the same 3 or 4 things over and over


Well, truth IS sort of a broken record, so.....
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:16 pm to
Hey. He didn't force Marxism in that time.
Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:16 pm to
Read the first line, idiot.

It alludes to the SJW notion of privilege, does it not?
Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:17 pm to
This idiot and his alter are just trolling at this point.

You've beaten them into what would be a submission by anyone's standards.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:18 pm to
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Salmon conceded above that he even considers genetic traits such as memory and physique to be "privileges," even those those traits occur across all groups. You've redefined privilege to be advantage. Which is fine. But moots the argument.


if I didn't inherit a certain trait that gives someone an advantage, I'll never be able to obtain that advantage

so I don't know how that wouldn't fit into even your definition of privilege
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:20 pm to
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Stable homes are not "available only" to one group.


They’re available only to children born to stable homes.

You cannot blame or praise a child for the actions of his/her parents. They did not select their family or upbringing. If they did, everyone would choose to live in a stable 2 parent household that was at least upper middle class. If this was available to everyone, we wouldn’t have broken homes.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:21 pm to
You of all people shouldn’t be calling anyone an idiot.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:21 pm to
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It alludes to the SJW notion of privilege, does it not?


Sure.

And both myself and TH have repeatedly stated that we do not agree with the "SJW notion" of privilege, yet you and others continually ask us about it as if we do?

Why?
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:21 pm to
privilege? what is that?

do you mean the following process perhaps:

> graduating high school.
> staying out of trouble, thus jail and criminal record.
> working towards and/or obtaining higher education.
> holding down and keeping a job.
> finding a love interest of quality to marry.
> waiting until marriage to have children.
> working hard to advance career and provide for family.
> not developing a alcohol or drug habit
> teaching your children what hard work, respect, and manners are.
> incrementally provide a better opportunity in life than you were provided.


if privilege is multiple generations consecutively following that pattern - then yes, I am privileged and proud of it. this is a proven process that can lead anyone to success in this country. pretty straight forward, but apparently is a struggle for many.
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