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When did we start thinking of artists as non-technical

Posted on 7/7/21 at 1:46 am
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18552 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 1:46 am
As I’ve paid more attention to art, I’ve learned how extremely technical it is. There are lots of formulas, and lots of know how to produce something. I was a documentary on how Rembrandt’s canvases used to be made and about the engineering that had to go into that from understanding the chemical properties of various pigments, etc.

I feel like these days, we see artists as the anti-technical and I’m curious how that came about. Because the more I look into art, it’s a lot of times extremely highly designed.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9407 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 2:02 am to
Probably because it's very subjective. It's hard to grasp that something so subjective could also be technical?

Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9084 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 2:15 am to
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When did we start thinking of artists as non-technical



Yoko Ono.
Posted by BigBobbyStorey
New Lodge, Belfast
Member since May 2021
1058 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 2:15 am to
hey look an interesting and original thought on the OT, how refreshing. It is an interesting question, and the first person to cross my mind is Frank Zappa who was of course an incredible creative mind, but also an immensely gifted technical musician.
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
12300 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 2:30 am to
Art is what artists make.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
6925 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 3:00 am to
Probably around the time shite like this started selling for more money than the average person could make in 10 lifetimes



ETA: 46 million for those curious
This post was edited on 7/7/21 at 3:07 am
Posted by PhantomMenace
Member since Oct 2017
1946 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 4:51 am to
Heck, I spent most of the night editing a single digital image to print on t-shirts, and it also took about three hours to do the shoot to get the original photograph. I'd estimate all that is worth at least $3.50.
Posted by TomballTiger
Htown
Member since Jan 2007
3761 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 5:29 am to
quote:

first person to cross my mind is Frank Zappa who was of course an incredible creative mind, but also an immensely gifted technical musician.


go on...
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39972 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 5:42 am to
Probably when it started to be used to launder money or when people started using shite as shock art.
Posted by Booyow
Member since Mar 2010
3990 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 5:44 am to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58549 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 5:46 am to
quote:

Probably when it started to be used to launder money or when people started using shite as shock art.


This is related, yes.
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
14739 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 6:24 am to
If you think about it, art is everywhere you look.

Somebody designed the clothes you’re wearing, the furniture & paintings in your house, your house, your phone, your pc, your car, your street, city landscapes, every building, every bridge, every church, park etc…
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10384 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 6:40 am to
I don't think they were ever considered technical.

Even in his own day, no one ever thought, "That Rembrandt sure is a brilliant chemist."
This post was edited on 7/7/21 at 6:42 am
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
29982 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:24 am to
quote:

I was a documentary on how Rembrandt’s canvases used to be made and about the engineering that had to go into that from understanding the chemical properties of various pigments, etc.


That isn't the art, that is the structure for the artist to use to create the art.

The process may be technical. The media and materials as well as their production may be technical. But I would say that quality art itself rarely is technical. There will always be exceptions in art, however.

The artists themselves may be highly technical, though. We do tend to confuse the person with the product in all sorts of things.

Just my opinion.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9244 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:27 am to
When art went from this:


To this:
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9244 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 7:27 am to
Double post
This post was edited on 7/7/21 at 7:29 am
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
26982 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 9:04 am to
I would argue the shift occurred once all of the more technical aspects had been fully explored and “figured out”. Most artists in 2021 are no longer really focused on, or even involved in, pushing the envelope on the technical aspects of the craft. They are focusing on pushing the envelope regarding the expression of art itself, which is why that’s their perceived identity.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10384 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 8:51 pm to
quote:

Most artists in 2021 are no longer really focused on, or even involved in, pushing the envelope on the technical aspects of the craft.
I strongly disagree with this.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
26982 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 8:54 pm to
quote:

I strongly disagree with this.


I'm happy to be educated on the subject
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