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re: When did society start looking down on blue collar jobs?

Posted on 1/16/23 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Posted on 1/16/23 at 12:40 pm to
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When did society start looking down on blue collar jobs?



Because I get to sit at home and work in my house slippers and sip my coffee by the fire and you're in some cold non-heated factory and sweating on the assembly line. It's not my fault you didn't have the mentality to go to class that first semester in college or average 2 hours of study a day. I know this isn't an example of every blue collar worker, but probably 25% of them.
This post was edited on 1/16/23 at 12:46 pm
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 1/16/23 at 1:00 pm to
Ok, but local economies are quite a bit different when the msa of your city is larger than LA. There are floors in Manhattan that make more in a day than your building does in a month, but it’s a completely different scale and type of local economy.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 1/16/23 at 1:04 pm to
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omplaining about working more than 40, yet not getting paid for it.


That is definitely a pretty overlooked point in the favor of blue-collar.

QOL in general CAN be better in white collar(though I promise you, go talk to some junior lawyers at a major factory firm, or junior accountants at a major accounting firm), but at the same time, you are almost always salaried and you arent getting overtime pay. That 100k salary is what you get. 40 hours or 75 hours during crunch, pays the same.

Industrial Welders I know, they want you to work 6 days? 12-13 hrs? sure, but that will be their $45 an hour and anything over 40 is time and half. Likely 100-225 a day per diem.

Of course the downside is regular layoffs, and they have to travel and will likely bounce around companies a lot. So 401k's and general benefit coverage can get tricky.

But do it right and you can work 8-9 months and be off 3 or more a year and still pull in well over 100k.

Compare that to some junior accountant at a big firm making barely 100k, living in a hyper-expensive city, also working long hours but only making salary.
Posted by Grateful Reb
Member since Apr 2011
8070 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 1:10 pm to
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I think I'd have rather done the "low skilled" job


Nobody is stopping you. Grab a plunger and go for it.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22969 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 1:12 pm to
Depends on where you live. In my community almost everyone who isn't retired is a self-employed plumber, electrician, mechanic, farmer, etc. Nobody looks down on these jobs at all.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/16/23 at 1:14 pm to
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Because I get to sit at home and work in my house slippers and sip my coffee by the fire


This is funny.

A guy in bunny slippers and a robe looking down on dudes who go to work and build shite.

Men don't seek comfort over fulfillment.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 1/16/23 at 1:24 pm to
I think class distinctions likely date back to the Neolithic Era.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/16/23 at 1:26 pm to
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You may be right. I admittedly do not know.


Journeyman makes 100k a year here if he's wanting to work.

frick, the mines here pay $110k average per year, and its relatively easy work. No responsibility, work two on and two off.

Many live out of state and fly in.

You can make a good living in the right trade without having your own firm.
Posted by shinerfan
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Member since Sep 2009
28193 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 1:26 pm to
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Go to trade school and make 45K digging other people's shite out of a septic tank when it's 25 degrees outside.






You're a renter, aren't you? No homeowner in America thinks plumbers make 45k.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 1/16/23 at 1:39 pm to
I mean at best you’re talking a few hundred jobs in these areas. It’s an outlier.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
120221 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 1:41 pm to
Aren’t you a tour guide?
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 1/16/23 at 1:42 pm to
By and large blue-collar jobs offer a much easier path to opening your own shop, as well.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133615 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 1:56 pm to
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And you know many people like this?


I suppose I should have said "know of"

I'm not friends with these sorts
Posted by 8lue
Member since Jan 2014
359 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 2:15 pm to
Are they different? My Blue collar job has me in a cubicle interviewing engineers asking for much less than I make. I thought the education system seen that agenda as a way to self fund?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297987 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 2:16 pm to
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Aren’t you a tour guide?


No, aren't you a file clerk?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297987 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 2:18 pm to
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But this board's fascination with acting like they are better than going to college is asinine.


Ahh.. the ole "one size fits all" dweebs.

Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 2:21 pm to
The corporation and its structures are to human souls what alcohol free beer is to parties.

But not either / or (white/blue collar). You just need to bend your experience in that corporation to match who you are, what you are about and let your soul flow. It can be done. Trust me. Been there.

Find the way to create value for the corp that matches your flow and good chit happens.

Not to say blue collar May be your flow. Nothing wrong with that.

Good luck.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
120221 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 2:31 pm to
Nope. Just funny funding your lecturing people again.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9836 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 2:36 pm to
I'm sort of sick of this narrative that there's this undercurrent of old men who don't dress flashy that have millions in the bank.

I'm not saying it doesn't exist. But I've seen the financials of some of these "silent millionaires" working at a rural accounting firm in Indiana. Farmers, landscapers with govt contracts, etc.

Most of them have absolutely no business sense whatsoever. Some of them do. Most of them do not.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297987 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 2:39 pm to
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Just funny funding your lecturing people again.


Well I could mansplain to you how to spell too, if you're not too triggered today.
This post was edited on 1/16/23 at 2:40 pm
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