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re: What’s the deal with the Poli Board?
Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:04 am to LCA131
Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:04 am to LCA131
Eh. I’m obviously grown from then, but what I meant is that most of my political beliefs are the same. I was always fiscally conservative. I was just young so the fiscal side didn’t matter to me.
The views didn’t change. How I prioritize them did. I still hold a lot of stereotypically left social views. I just learned that you can hold those beliefs and still be a conservative. You can’t hold my fiscal beliefs and vote Democrat.
The views didn’t change. How I prioritize them did. I still hold a lot of stereotypically left social views. I just learned that you can hold those beliefs and still be a conservative. You can’t hold my fiscal beliefs and vote Democrat.
This post was edited on 11/2/20 at 9:08 am
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Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:05 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Supporting stronger background checks, closing "loopholes", wholesale bans on accessories as a reactionary move, etc.
Thank you. This is an answer, "i don't need to say anything else" is not.
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Even ignoring everything he's done against the Second Amendment, doing nothing FOR it is a net negative for a "conservative" President.
I agree with your arguments with being reactionary with the 2A things you listed. It does nothing to address the problem, as the problem has nothing to do with guns. This was a pandering move to appease the left, and as we see, the left will not be appeased nothing short of full on overturning the 2A. However, do you think this is an issue that would cause someone who voted for Trump in 2016, to vote for Biden in 2020?
Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:06 am to colorchangintiger
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How is that immigration reform coming?
Pretty good. You guys planning on blowing up anymore ICE facilities?
Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:08 am to nugget
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In a binary election, yes.
The stupidity of the average voter doesn't interest me.
Just because everyone else is an idiot, doesn't mean you also need to be an idiot.
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Who did you vote for?
None of your business, obviously.
Wasn't Trump or Biden.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:08 am to colorchangintiger
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Nope. There were many, many levels of failure inside and outside of the Trump administration. I did not mention Biden at all. I am only answering the question:
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What, between January 20th 2017 and January 1st 2020, went poorly for you or the country?
EXCEPT that nearly the entirety of your answer is things that happened after January 1st 2020.
Face it, everything was rocking and rolling with the country and in many parts of the world going into 2020. And then we face this pandemic, which I believe was orchestrated by China, to knock our economy down. I don't think they like dealing with Trump because he hasn't been bowing down to them.
They're really only three ways he could have handled it, if we're going to keep things simple. He could have shut the country down completely, he could have done absolutely nothing, or he could have played it somewhere in the middle which is what he did. No one really knew what was going on with the virus and you have to have some show of strength and solidarity and confidence for the American people. Did he handle it perfectly, no. I believe he is handled it as well as anyone could have though.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:10 am to BugAC
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I don't know. Trump was literally impeached for supposedly "colluding" with the Russians,
No he wasn't. The Articles of Impeachment were over his phone call with the Ukrainian president where he dangled military aid in exchange for information that he thought would help his presidential campaign. There were elements of the Mueller investigation brought up in the hearings, but the 2 articles dealt only with the Ukrainian call.
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Joe Biden stated on air, that he did exactly what Trump was investigated for.
They were not the exact same thing. One was carried out at stated US policy, while the other was carried out to help a presidential campaign.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:11 am to BugAC
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"i don't need to say anything else" is not.
Yes it is.
It isn't my responsibility to educate anyone else as a voter.
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However, do you think this is an issue that would cause someone who voted for Trump in 2016, to vote for Biden in 2020?
Nope, but it might cause some of them to simply not vote for Trump in 2020.
Fortunately for Trump, he has a lot of "I'm a big 2A guy, but..." types who support him.
Trump will win, and he doesn't need my vote to do it.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:13 am to DisplacedBuckeye
It’s always so easy to attack other candidates instead of defending the candidates of your choosing. Nobody is going to agree with 100% of their candidates policies. Big time cop out on your part.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:17 am to nugget
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It’s always so easy to attack other candidates instead of defending the candidates of your choosing.
Sure.
Which is exactly why the largest majority of posts on PT are Biden attacks.
Trump is a shitty option, but at least he isn't Biden.
Or so the "logic" goes...
Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:17 am to nugget
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You guys
Who exactly? LSU alumni? Hurricane victims? Middle aged white male business owners with families? OT Loungers?
Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:18 am to colorchangintiger
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Who exactly? LSU alumni? Hurricane victims? Middle aged white male business owners with families? OT Loungers?
He doesn't know. Really, it's anyone who isn't a fellow cultist.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:19 am to The Spleen
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The Articles of Impeachment were over his phone call with the Ukrainian president where he dangled military aid in exchange for information that he thought would help his presidential campaign.
And guess what, the attempted coup failed.
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They were not the exact same thing.
Lol. I know you know this, but i'll repeat. Everything the left accuses Trump of doing, they themselves are 100% guilty of doing. It's how they know what to accuse him of. You know this spleen, because you venture to the poli-board and you know the facts. You attempt to change the facts, but you know the truth. And you know who will win tomorrow.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:19 am to dallastiger55
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I voted for Trump in 16 but not in 20. They think that’s unheard of but I can name half a dozen people in my inner circle that did the same thing.
Who are your other friends voting for, Kanye?
Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:21 am to DisplacedBuckeye
There are plenty of posts about the positives of Trump. Extremely low unemployment, deregulation, appointment of conservative judges, criminal justice reform, etc.
Again, why don’t you want to defend your candidate? It’s easy to win arguments when you’re playing by a separate set of rules.
Again, why don’t you want to defend your candidate? It’s easy to win arguments when you’re playing by a separate set of rules.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:22 am to dallastiger55
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What am I missing? What do they know that others don’t.
I'm not as hardcore as some there but here are some answers to chew on:
1. We remember being told in 2016 pretty much the same things: Trump's opponent is destroying him in the polls, it's inevitable that Trump loses, people will die if Trump wins, etc.
2. We see the same scenario with the rallies. Biden struggles to bring in hundreds while Trump brings in thousands upon thousands upon thousands and the media attempts to downplay or simply not report it.
3. We see the desperation of Big Tech, like Twitter and Facebook blocking political posts of primarily one side as well as sites like Google and Yahoo quietly seeking to obscure or outright hide stories critical of Biden.
4. ~95% of the stories the major media outlets do on Trump are negative while ~46% on Biden are negative (at least according to the last study I read, which was a week or two ago). A great example of this is the Hunter Biden laptop issue where we now have multiple sources pointing toward the Biden family laundering money to Joe while he was sitting as VP in exchange for his influence in various deals and the majority of the media is largely ignoring it (the best though has been Snopes and NBC News "debunking" aspects that no one following this has ever brought up, discussed or even heard of).
5. We see the tremendous amount of good Trump has done legislatively (as opposed to rhetorically) and believe others see it as well.
6. We are aware of the rise of the Black Conservative Movement, something the media is steadfastly avoiding (bookmark this: Trump will have double-digit black votes before this is all over).
7. We recognize the blowback onto the Biden campaign the ANTIFA and BLM riots have caused. We also understand (and think others do as well) exactly who the media is talking about when they do stories on business owners preparing their stores for post-election riots (hint: it's not the Trump supporters).
We're taking all of this into account and believe (or at least hope) that enough other voters will as well.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:23 am to LCA131
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EXCEPT that nearly the entirety of your answer is things that happened after January 1st 2020.
Ah, my apologies. I was thinking and reading January 1st 2021. Still, half of my answer was Covid, the other half was the trade war which started in 2018. Hardly "nearly the entirety".
Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:24 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Really, it's anyone who isn't a fellow cultist.
I’m much more along the Ted Cruz line of the party. However, unlike you, I understand it’s a binary choice. I’m happy to call Trump out on his spending and other things I disagree with him on.
I couldn’t imagine being scared to defend your thoughts and candidates. You only play offense in arguments. Big time pussy move.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:29 am to nugget
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There are plenty of posts about the positives of Trump. Extremely low unemployment, deregulation, appointment of conservative judges, criminal justice reform, etc.
When those "positive" posts include celebrating the death of an opponent, childish behavior on social media, and any of the other stupid shite PT discusses, it's kind of hard to give a frick about anyone's other opinions on how well they feel he's done.
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Again, why don’t you want to defend your candidate?
It has nothing to do with defending who I voted for or not. It's simply none of your business. My wife is the only other person on Earth who knows who I vote for, and that's how it's going to stay.
Deal with it.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:29 am to Bard
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Bard
Excellent post, Mr Bard.... Except
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A great example of this is the Hunter Biden laptop issue where we now have multiple sources pointing toward the Biden family laundering money to Joe while he was sitting as VP in exchange for his influence in various deals and the majority
The left will require the cancelled check by VP Biden, WITH an actual fingerprint, the deposit slip into a hidden account and where he declared it on his income taxes (including the actual pencil he used when adding the figures... BEFORE they look into the evidence.
Thanks.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:30 am to nugget
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However, unlike you, I understand it’s a binary choice.
Nope.
You're simply ignorant enough to believe it must be a binary choice.
You're part of the problem, not the solution.
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