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re: What's happening in Africa?

Posted on 3/11/17 at 8:48 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 3/11/17 at 8:48 pm to
I'm confused. How can he be Caucasian and Semite? He certainly wouldn't have very much in common with Northern Europeans.
Posted by PoundFoolish
East Texas
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 3/11/17 at 8:50 pm to
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He certainly wouldn't have very much in common with Northern Europeans.


Again with your tangents . . .

Please look up the definition of caucasian and then concede that it is not an ethnic identification exclusive to northern Europeans.
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 3/11/17 at 8:54 pm to
It doesn't. I'm skeptical of your claim that Jesus would somehow be both Semite and look unlike Semitic people of the ME.
Posted by PoundFoolish
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Posted on 3/11/17 at 8:57 pm to
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I'm skeptical of your claim that Jesus would somehow be both Semite and look unlike Semitic people of the ME.


Because Jews themselves are of a different variegation than the tribes of the Arabian peninsula.
This post was edited on 3/11/17 at 8:58 pm
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/11/17 at 8:58 pm to
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Do what? Claim that arabs are white? Look at the census definition. Claim middle eastern history as white history? Look at any history book more than 80 years old. Look at portrayals of Jesus, cleopatra, Ancient Greece.

I've never heard anyone say Arabs are white. I doubt Arabs consider themselves white. If the census does this then that's the census.

Cleopatra was Greek and Ancient Greece was European. Just like modern Greece.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
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Posted on 3/11/17 at 9:00 pm to
I don't honesty know the exact definitions of Semite or Caucasian. But I always assumed Jesus looked like a typical ancient Jew in Palestine and every Christian with any basic education believes the same. Not white. But is it so unnatural for Europeans to reimagine him, who is divine, in their own image? Are white people the only people to make their god look like themselves?
This post was edited on 3/11/17 at 9:02 pm
Posted by Easy
Los Angeles
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/11/17 at 9:01 pm to
Ancient Greece was just as European as ancient Turkey. The boundary between Europe and Asia is pretty arbitrary.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 3/11/17 at 9:01 pm to
So you are saying the Jews that lived in that region are genetically distinct? I don't buy that argument. LINK

LINK
Posted by PoundFoolish
East Texas
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 3/11/17 at 9:01 pm to
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But is it so unnatural for Europeans to reimagine him, who is divine, in their own image? Are white people the only people to make their god look like themselves?


For Afrocentrists, considerations of this nature cannot be applied.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40038 posts
Posted on 3/11/17 at 9:03 pm to
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But is it so unnatural for Europeans to reimagine him, who is divine, in their own image? Are white people the only people to make their god look like themselves?



Yeah I don't care about that. Saying that he is both Semitic and European, as well as being genetically distinct from near-neighbors, is an argument I don't buy.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
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Posted on 3/11/17 at 9:04 pm to
Afrocentrists are nuts. They want to claim that Moses, Hannibal, Jesus, the ancient Egyptians and most everyone else of historical note as being black. it's all a giant cover up on the part of every historian over centuries to deny this.
Posted by LakeViewLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/11/17 at 9:04 pm to
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] A human race is defined as a group of people with certain common inherited features that distinguish them from other groups of people.

All men of whatever race are currently classified by the anthropologist or biologist as belonging to the one species, Homo sapiens.

This is another way of saying that the differences between human races are not great, even though they may appear so, i.e. black vs white skin.

All races of mankind in the world can interbreed because they have so much in common. All races share 99.99+% of the same genetic materials which means that division of race is largely subjective, and that the original 3-5 races were also probably just subjective descriptions as well.

The Major Divisions of the Human Race Most anthropologists recognize 3 or 4 basic races of man in existence today. These races can be further subdivided into as many as 30 subgroups.

Ethnographic division into races from Meyers Konversationslexikon of 1885-90 is listing:


Caucasian races (Aryans, Hamites, Semites)


Mongolian races (northern Mongolian, Chinese and Indo-Chinese, Japanese and Korean, Tibetan, Malayan, Polynesian, Maori, Micronesian, Eskimo, American Indian),


Negroid races (African, Hottentots, Melanesians/Papua, “Negrito”, Australian Aborigine, Dravidians, Sinhalese)
Posted by PoundFoolish
East Texas
Member since Jul 2016
3724 posts
Posted on 3/11/17 at 9:06 pm to
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So you are saying the Jews that lived in that region are genetically distinct? I don't buy that argument. LINK

LINK




Your links show the commonalities among the genetics of the Levant. I was referring to the distinctions between Levantines and those of the Arab Peninsula
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40038 posts
Posted on 3/11/17 at 9:09 pm to
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Your links show the commonalities among the genetics of the Levant. I was referring to the distinctions between Levantines and those of the Arab Peninsula



I wouldn't deny that, but Palestinian Arabs are categorized the same as Gulf Arabs, for better or worse, under the broad category of Semitic peoples.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 3/11/17 at 9:10 pm to
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Hottentots
We're being attacked by Hottentots! Cheeky devils! Give 'em what for! Empty the shot lockers!
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 3/11/17 at 9:13 pm to
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He loves Shreveport. So I guess that gives you a good idea of how shitty things were back home


Posted by LakeViewLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
17730 posts
Posted on 3/11/17 at 9:14 pm to
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La venus Hottentotel


An old racist cartoon.

This post was edited on 3/11/17 at 9:15 pm
Posted by PoundFoolish
East Texas
Member since Jul 2016
3724 posts
Posted on 3/11/17 at 9:14 pm to
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I wouldn't deny that, but Palestinian Arabs are categorized the same as Gulf Arabs, for better or worse, under the broad category of Semitic peoples.


This doesn't mean they share similar phenotype/genotype attributes.
Posted by Easy
Los Angeles
Member since Dec 2008
5837 posts
Posted on 3/11/17 at 9:15 pm to
A white supremacist in a white supremacist thread. Go figure.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85514 posts
Posted on 3/11/17 at 9:15 pm to
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Ancient Greece was just as European as ancient Turkey. The boundary between Europe and Asia is pretty arbitrary.

At no point would Greece ever be considered Middle Eastern. If you want to say the boundaries move and are arbitrary and Turkey has changed, fine. Turkey was dominated by Greece and Rome for centuries although geographically it's Asia. But Greece was and is Europe.
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