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re: What will it take to reduce the obesity rate in the US?
Posted on 9/13/18 at 3:25 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 9/13/18 at 3:25 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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You posted a link to one of their opinion-based blog posts, then two propaganda pieces from fricking Leangains of all places.
Post an actual study, explain it, and explain how you think it proves that anything I've said is incorrect. That should be pretty damn simple.
I posted a million studies. I said the studies were linked in the article. I linked the lean gains article that has the study linked.
DID YOU READ A frickING THING I linked, Jesus fricking christ!!!
Oh and did you really just laugh at leangains considering Martin is one of the few that actually reads the damn studies.
please tell me where i was wrong and I will be happy to admit it. DO it all the time.
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Posted on 9/13/18 at 3:30 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
dude you stated that IF doesn't help people control calories. I linked 5 different studies showing you were wrong. 5 frickING 5!!!
All im asking is go read the studies I linked.
THIS POST
as far as the personal attacks, IM quite secure having my engineering degree. Im sure you are much smarter than myself and are much more successful. Congrats.
All im asking is go read the studies I linked.
THIS POST
as far as the personal attacks, IM quite secure having my engineering degree. Im sure you are much smarter than myself and are much more successful. Congrats.
Posted on 9/13/18 at 3:30 pm to weagle99
Dust Bowl, Part 2
Posted on 9/13/18 at 3:32 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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I'm happy to compare IQs with you any day.
Kinda strange that eating two meals is healthier than eating three meals, but every military in the world feeds their soldiers three meals a day during training (except of course in special ops training where the objective is to learn to operate on less food than is recommended) seems to me like the US Army for example, would say "Hmmm, 2 meals a day would be more conducive to getting our soldiers in the condition we want them in than 3" if that were true.
Yet the study you linked to start off shows this exact thing. Though Im sure the US ARMY is on the cutting edge of fat loss nutrition considering they are worried about performance.
Dumbest argument I have ever scene. DO you understand there is a huge difference in performance, health and fatloss?
Posted on 9/13/18 at 3:41 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Kinda strange that eating two meals is healthier than eating three meals, but every military in the world feeds their soldiers three meals a day during training (except of course in special ops training where the objective is to learn to operate on less food than is recommended) seems to me like the US Army for example, would say "Hmmm, 2 meals a day would be more conducive to getting our soldiers in the condition we want them in than 3" if that were true.
And what's a typical soldier's day look like between 6AM and 5PM compared to an white collar American?
To hold weight successfully, you have to get calories in to equal calories out, without strong hunger or cravings. To lose weight, it's the same equation except come up about 500 calories per day short (and holding hunger to a manageable level).
My personal view is that there is no "one size fits all" approach to how to do this, and because of that, old adages such as "Breakfast is the most important meal of the day" are NOT universal truths.
Calorie use profiles vary dramatically between people, so it makes some sense to leave yourself open to adjusting your calorie intake profile accordingly.
I'm diabetic, so unfortunately I don't have much of a choice but to play around with my diet. So for me, my calorie use profile has me sitting at a desk most of the day and then stopping at the gym for an hour on my way home from work. So, I burn about 3000 calories per day, and nearly 1/3 of them are between 5:30 and 6:30PM. I was struggling with being hungry after dinner, which is a time when I'm at home, so I have access to food. I didn't always have the willpower to hold a 500 cal/day deficit and be hungry with access to food at the same time.
Corrective action: Drop the 500 cal breakfast and replace it with it a 500 cal snack at about 4PM. Problem solved, at a 500 cal/day overall deficit, I was mildly hungry shortly before lunch - at a time when I don't much access to food, and can look forward to a meal within an hour or so instead of trying to willpower myself through the night. I've dropped 20 lbs and all of my blood work is excellent (diabetically speaking).
Posted on 9/13/18 at 3:46 pm to weagle99
Fat shaming would fix it
Posted on 9/13/18 at 3:58 pm to weagle99
Carbohydrate taxation
Posted on 9/13/18 at 4:16 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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You didn't even read them. I know that because they are thousands of words a piece and you replied back in minutes.
You mean the one that was referenced much earlier?
I guess I'll just continue to wait for that proof.
Posted on 9/13/18 at 4:19 pm to lsu777
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I posted a million studies.
No, you didn't. You posted a blog post and two propaganda pieces.
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leangains
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please tell me where i was wrong and I will be happy to admit it.
Your assumptions are what are incorrect. You're trying to prove me wrong about points I haven't made.
Posted on 9/13/18 at 4:21 pm to lsu777
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dude you stated that IF doesn't help people control calories.
No, I didn't.
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personal attacks
Oh boy, I would love for you to point out where I "attacked" you.
Posted on 9/13/18 at 4:23 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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You mean the one that was referenced much earlier?
As well as the other two and 777s multiple links?
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I guess I'll just continue to wait for that proof.
I guess you'll just keep waiting since you aren't going to read what's already been provided.
Posted on 9/13/18 at 4:26 pm to weagle99
When the price of good. nutritional food costs as little as fast, garbage food.
It's way cheaper to eat carbs bacon and McDonalds than to eat fresh vegetables and lean meat.
It's way cheaper to eat carbs bacon and McDonalds than to eat fresh vegetables and lean meat.
Posted on 9/13/18 at 4:36 pm to TGFN57
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When the price of good. nutritional food costs as little as fast, garbage food.
It's way cheaper to eat carbs bacon and McDonalds than to eat fresh vegetables and lean meat.
A pound of chicken a bag of frozen brocolli is $4 total. A big Mac and fries is double that.
Posted on 9/13/18 at 4:38 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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No, you didn't. You posted a blog post and two propaganda pieces.
you mean the following studies in the post i told you to read
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Your assumptions are what are incorrect. You're trying to prove me wrong about points I haven't made.
you said the following in reference to Intermittent fasting and my assertion that it helps control calorie intake
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If you're talking about behaviors in people, which we are, it absolutely matters.
I pointed out that you are wrong
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leangains
Leangains is one of the best sites on the internet. Alan Argon might like to sexually harass women, but is considered a pillar in the nutrition science department. Even he says Martins work is correct. Alans AAR site has reviewed Martins work and says it is correct. So has Lyle McDonanld, Eric Helms, Greg Nuckels, Layne Norton....you know only the who is who of nutrition science.
but yea I am the one that is wrong gtfo.
This post was edited on 9/13/18 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 9/13/18 at 4:39 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Oh boy, I would love for you to point out where I "attacked" you
Wasnt talking to you about the personal attacks. Hog whatever above you was posting BS about IQ.
Posted on 9/13/18 at 4:39 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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A pound of chicken a bag of frozen brocolli is $4 total. A big Mac and fries is double that.
This.
Show me where any fast food is cheaper than healthy food from the grocery.
It's not the availability or price of food, it's the people.
Posted on 9/13/18 at 4:40 pm to BurningHeart
yea at sams chicken thighs are under a dollar per pound most of the time, breast under $2.
Posted on 9/13/18 at 4:42 pm to lsu777
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lsu777 and DisplacedBuckeye
No one wants to read your back and forth argument with each other. Take it to PMs
Posted on 9/13/18 at 4:45 pm to Walt OReilly
Extremely high food prices
Posted on 9/13/18 at 4:51 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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And it's pathetic that Trump ended most of the program simply because Obama's name was attached to it. Just pitiful.
That's not why it ended... It was because kids were throwing it all in the trash. It was extremely wasteful, but definitely noble.
STOP FEEDING YOUR KIDS CHICKEN NUGGETS AND MAC n CHEESE.
Women: START COOKING HEALTHFUL MEALS.
Don't buckle under to your crying child, either. Starve the lil fricker, if need be.
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