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re: "What will be, is already here".

Posted on 5/20/25 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by PoppedRiser
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Posted on 5/20/25 at 2:22 pm to
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A) time is not linear, we just experience it that way. “We” being these silly lightbulb-like vessels that channel the light/spirit and are all connected through the string-light/power cable that provides a continuous flow of energy through the world. That electricity is not linear.

B) chaos happens. Planes fall out of the sky in Philly and parts hit and kill random pedestrians. My landscaper sometimes hits a rock with the mower and it smashes an outdoor light fixture.


Time sure feels linear, and I think for our purposes and in terms of physics it is. We can't really take advantage of it being anything else, so while I love to ponder the complexity, I can't apply it.

Chaos is definitely something to be accounted for. You can make all the plans that you want, but someone's mistake or series of mistakes that you can't foresee can be the end of anyone's little story. Obviously there are decisions and choices we make that make those things more likely, but the chaos can still spring out of the blue.

Most disasters could have been seen coming, but there were people too far removed from those critical decisions to be able to predict them. Some things people can predict and avoid, but some of them will be just a fluke you can't prep for, i.e. chaos.
Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
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Posted on 5/20/25 at 2:24 pm to
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I thought this was going to be another Kamala Harris quote.


Kambucha ain't on this level of philosophy. She thinks she is, though.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
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Posted on 5/20/25 at 2:28 pm to
Gimme some of that dope baw
Posted by Future Islands
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Posted on 5/20/25 at 2:33 pm to
"Everything that will happen, has already happened."

Once you realize you've already died, it makes every minor inconvenience seem completely irrelevant and every beautiful moment all the more magical.
Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
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Posted on 5/20/25 at 2:47 pm to
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"Everything that will happen, has already happened."

Once you realize you've already died, it makes every minor inconvenience seem completely irrelevant and every beautiful moment all the more magical.


That's interesting. I can get behind that, although it's a bit unsettling.
This post was edited on 5/20/25 at 2:50 pm
Posted by OweO
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Posted on 5/20/25 at 2:54 pm to
So you are saying the unexpected can't happen?
Posted by carrguitar
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 5/20/25 at 2:59 pm to
I had a similar thought string yesterday while mowing. When new technology comes out, we act as if we have invented something. In reality, all the material and laws of physics have always existed and anything that exists now, or in the future, could have existed at any point in time. The principles of making, say a computer, existed in the same time that pyramids were being constructed. Maybe that's too close of a conspiracy theory to use as an example. The principles of creating a combustible engine automobile existed at the same time as cavemen were walking around caves.

Ok, enough rambling.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 5/20/25 at 3:00 pm to
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I'm not very certain about the future.

For what it is worth, no one is.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 5/20/25 at 3:02 pm to
You suck at explaining shite
Posted by Tyga Woods
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Posted on 5/20/25 at 3:04 pm to
The ceiling is the roof
Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
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Posted on 5/20/25 at 3:05 pm to
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So you are saying the unexpected can't happen?


No, that's what gives me a pause agreeing with that philosophical view. It kinda diminishes the chaos variable, but then again chaos variable is a low probability occurrence. Even though it seems chaotic things happen daily, to a single individual it's a very insignificant impact. But yes, it can happen, so yes the quote is definitely not bulletproof.

However if you examine key elements that led to an important event, there were clues and signs long before the event that it was possible for it to happen, if not likely. It makes one think hopefully and examine the trajectory their life is taking and what clues that can take to maybe augment it.

Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
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Posted on 5/20/25 at 3:07 pm to
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The ceiling is the roof


Not necessarily.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 5/20/25 at 3:09 pm to
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The ceiling is the roof
from the windowwww to the wall
Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
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Posted on 5/20/25 at 3:13 pm to
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I had a similar thought string yesterday while mowing. When new technology comes out, we act as if we have invented something. In reality, all the material and laws of physics have always existed and anything that exists now, or in the future, could have existed at any point in time. The principles of making, say a computer, existed in the same time that pyramids were being constructed. Maybe that's too close of a conspiracy theory to use as an example. The principles of creating a combustible engine automobile existed at the same time as cavemen were walking around caves.

Ok, enough rambling.


You're correct. All the drones, ebikes, ecars, etc... is WW2 era tech of electric motors. They had electric "drones" in WW2 powered by battery, but they couldn't make batteries smaller and they didn't have programming and controllers to make it more sophisticated.

As soon as people figured out that mixing sulfur with charcoal and potassium nitrate makes instant fire, the invention of high explosives was inevitable. And once Nobel figured out that mixing nitroglycerin and saw dust/diatomaceous earth can make usable explosives, nuclear weapons were inevitable because the man would keep pushing to find the ultimate eraser button.

The surveillance state, AI facial recognition, drones, it's a sign of things to come.
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