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re: What must it be like to grow up surrounded by a wind farm in the Midwest?

Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:14 pm to
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ranchers just love windmills even if it just covers their cost.


Except that’s not what he said. Please stop lying.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281895 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:16 pm to
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Except that’s not what he said. Please stop lying.


Exactly what he said

Ranchers love money, not industrial scale windfarms.

Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29002 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:17 pm to
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Good for you The philosophy of "more money" don't rule my life
What's this got to do with anything?
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I prefer my land natural.
Me too. Same goes for the air I breathe. Unfortunately, modern life doesn't allow for it all to be completely natural. But if we take an honest look at the pros and cons, the costs and benefits in terms of economics as well as our lives and health, I think we'll find that renewables are the way forward. And I've got no problem at all with nuclear.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38533 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:17 pm to
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Exactly what he said


Lie
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281895 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:19 pm to
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Unfortunately, modern life doesn't allow for it all to be completely natural.


If you choose.

Which you have.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281895 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:20 pm to
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Lie


Illiterate.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38533 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:21 pm to
You literally changed his words and also removed several from his statement. Did you do that because you are a dishonest hack or because you can’t read?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281895 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:24 pm to
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You literally changed his words


No, you just can't understand him, which isn't shocking.

Wind farms are a blight, no rational human would want to be near them without being bought off. But according to our little friend, Ranchers just love wind farms.

They don't. You pay a guy enough money he'll put shite on his land. But its still a blight.

Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
5810 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:24 pm to
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Those aren't going away no matter how many wind farms we build



Correct. Last time I checked, we needed those in order to build a wind farm.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29002 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:24 pm to
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If you choose.

Which you have.
As have we all. Do you not have shelter? Electricity?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281895 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:26 pm to
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we'll find that renewables are the way forward.


Absolutely.

But you're not going green to feel good about it. You'll destroy your land when they pay you good money to do it. You aren't doing it even if you break even.

Because wind farms are a blight on the landscape. Even you would agree.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:29 pm to
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They had a bunch of these in the Texas Panhandle where I lived. I don’t remember giving them much notice.


That's because in areas where wind farms exist there is nothing else to see and no one there to see it
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38533 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:29 pm to
Burn down that strawman bro. You’re doing great.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
15049 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:30 pm to
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Ranchers just love wind farms.

Ranchers love steady income to protect their way of life and pay massive property taxes, offset shitty ranching years and keep the family property in the family name. No ones getting rich unless you have a massive operation. And even then, your expenses go up proportionally.

Signed a rancher with 40 wind turbines on his property.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57855 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:30 pm to
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Yep, according to the fella I responded to, ranchers just love windmills even if it just covers their cost.

where is this coming from?
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
15049 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:33 pm to
Since he won't put what I said I will:

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IDK about farmers, but ranchers love it. And yes, there is decent money to be made, but its not life changing. Honestly most just want to cover their expenses and put a little money in the family till.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281895 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:33 pm to
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Signed a rancher with 40 wind turbines on his property.


Everything is a tradeoff.

BTW: Wind power isn't green energy. Not with wind farms.

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38533 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:33 pm to
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where is this coming from?


Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
15049 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:36 pm to
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Everything is a tradeoff.

BTW: Wind power isn't green energy. Not with wind farms.

What's the trade off? the aesthetics of the land?

Worry about your own land, not what I do with mine.

And I, nor anyone around me gives a flying frick about it being green. We also love O&G. We don't let people dump blades on our property nor let wells leak. You're grasping hard.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29002 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 1:37 pm to
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But you're not going green to feel good about it.
Never claimed I would. I don't even use the term "going green". I'm all about diversifying our energy sources, especially towards those with zero fuel costs.
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You'll destroy your land when they pay you good money to do it.
As is always the case. I'm not going to waste time and land on a garden unless it feeds me.
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You aren't doing it even if you break even.
Obviously not.
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Because wind farms are a blight on the landscape. Even you would agree.
So is every other structure we've ever built. Like I said, modern life and all.
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