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re: What miracles would Jesus need to do today to show His divinity?

Posted on 10/18/18 at 7:16 am to
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 7:16 am to
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Ahem
AD........ What does that stands for........ I'll wait


Seriously?

Contrasted to BC (Before Christ) AD is the common abbreviation for the Latin Anno Domini (The Year of the Lord) designating Jesus' birth, year 1.

Everything prior to 1 AD is BC and there is not a dividing year between the periods. No year 0.

What did you think it stood for?
Posted by cj35
Member since Jan 2014
6153 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 7:17 am to
Turn our President Pumpkinhead into a human.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 7:38 am to
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What did you think it stood for?


Apparently it stands for Shorty made a dumb comment

#hangsheadinshame
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 7:49 am to
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If you’re an atheist in the Deep South Christianity certainly does have an impact on how you live your life. If you are open about your atheism it will limit your dating / marriage options and could easily affect your professional life, especially if it’s high profile.

Beliefs and actions based on those beliefs place the responsibilities, privileges, and burdens squarely on the shoulders of the person who holds them and steers their course through life by the light they shed on life's path.

No beliefs firmly held with conscience are without difficulties.

Mine limited dating and marriage opportunities and affected my professional life. At times they expose me to ridicule and occasionally to hostility. I am thankful however because in some countries to believe the gospel and act on it often leads to far worse than I have ever experienced. Loss of work, being ostracized by the community, physical harm, possibly even torture and death.

You and I, although on opposite sides of the gospel line in the sand, are more alike than either of us would care to admit and hardly suffer at all for what we believe, or don't believe.

This scripture bucks me up to keep the stiff upper lip. I'm sure you will take its meaning.
quote:

"Watch ye, stand fast in the faith, quit you like men, be strong. Let all your things be done with charity"
(I Corinthians 16:13-14; King James Version).


Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 7:51 am to
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Apparently it stands for Shorty made a dumb comment

I laughed.
No shame necessary. We're good dude.
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:39 am to
Turn Men into women and visa versa

Make the wall on the border

Make social media disappear

End institutional racism (sarcasm)

MAKE ALL LIVES MATTER

Make all politicians tell the truth/come clean

Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5321 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:46 am to
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I am thankful however because in some countries to believe the gospel and act on it often leads to far worse than I have ever experienced. Loss of work, being ostracized by the community, physical harm, possibly even torture and death.


In certain parts of the USA (not just other countries) to be an atheist and outspoken about it can lead to loss of work and being ostracized by the community. You don’t see too many atheists winning public office, do you? Being a Christian is almost a prerequisite for it.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:09 am to
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What miracles would Jesus need to do today to show His divinity?



If he can keep the directv from going out during the LSU game then I'm a believer.
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:35 am to
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In certain parts of the USA (not just other countries) to be an atheist and outspoken about it can lead to loss of work and being ostracized by the community. You don’t see too many atheists winning public office, do you? Being a Christian is almost a prerequisite for it.

Wow. I don't know what to tell you. I don't have any comfort to offer and the only advice I have is to stand fast and live what you believe and man up to the consequences of your beliefs and actions. No fear.

Have you lost a job? Are you being ostracized? Do you want to go into politics? If so, press on. For all I know, depending on your platform, I might support you. Christian is not a litmus test for me in everything. Marriage. Business partner. Those are about it.

I just don't see the virtue in taking a principled stand and waste energy on worrying or complaining about the consequences. You either believe (or in your case, don't believe) or you don't (do).

In my opinion, atheism is a religion that people believe in. There's Faith, dogma, a theology of sorts and implications on living life. Honestly, to be an atheist and look askance at any other religion seems to me to be absurd. Agnosticism seems a more reasonable and tenable position.

I guess if I were you, I'd reevaluate both Christianity and agnosticism. Obviously my search rejected atheism and agnosticism and struggled through to Christianity because is makes claims to historicity and supporting evidence. It also cogently explains how badly mankind is fricked up and why. There's many more able, convincing, and erudite apologists for the Faith than I. I would see if there's anything worthwhile down that road.
Posted by stratman
NOLA
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:37 am to
Well, The Saints won the Super Bowl, right? 'nuff said.
Posted by Tygra
Bee Are
Member since Jan 2008
427 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:30 am to
Instead of wine, Jesus would have to turn water into some double dry hopped, fruit infused craft beer.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5321 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:31 am to
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I don't have any comfort to offer and the only advice I have is to stand fast and live what you believe and man up to the consequences of your beliefs and actions.


I don’t think you understand.

My disbelief in deities is no more important to me than your (I’m assuming) disbelief in Bigfoot. The only difference is I’m surrounded by passionate believers in deities (who often vote based on these beliefs) while you are not surrounded by Bigfoot enthusiasts.

I’m not going to fight for atheism and deal with the social and professional consequences. I do the same with politics and other things. Do I wish I could have open conversations with local believers about the big questions? Sometimes. But I find it best to just let it go.

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In my opinion, atheism is a religion that people believe in.


Not really. It’s merely a lack of belief in deities. It (like most anything) can be made into a religion just like people used to worship the Sun. We all know the Sun is in the sky but that doesn’t make us Sun worshippers.

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I guess if I were you, I would reevaluate both Christianity and agnosticism.


Why just those two? There are countless religions out there. The joke of it all is that 90% of people adopt the the religion of their culture or upbringing. I have been to many other countries and seen the same phenomenon in those places. It’s called religious indoctrination.
Posted by Thias2685
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:34 am to


Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:42 am to
Make the Last Jedi watchable.
Posted by Three-n-Snout
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:09 am to
Get Arkansas to a bowl game..
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:12 am to
Convince TrillHog that rape is wrong.

Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:43 am to
Ending cancer would qualify.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:51 am to
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:12 pm to
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 don’t see too many atheists winning public office, do you? Being a Christian is almost a prerequisite for it.


we have had zero any but the dominant paradigm as president.
Hand on bible.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
22851 posts
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:18 pm to
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wtf... since when is 90 not around 100?


John is dated to around 90 AD so ~60 years after Jesus' death. Even with it written 60+ years after Jesus it's not as if the Gospels, and other books of the New Testament, weren't written by people who either physically knew Jesus or associated with his disciples. James, the brother of Jesus and leader of the Jerusalem Church, wrote the Book of James. Peter wrote 1st Peter. The writer of Mark is attributed to a disciple of Peter. The writer of Luke and Acts is a disciple of Paul. Paul, who wrote the majority of the books personally corresponded, and spent time, with Peter and James.
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