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re: What is the sales pitch for meth and heroine?
Posted on 7/18/15 at 3:00 pm to stout
Posted on 7/18/15 at 3:00 pm to stout
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I still have a whole bottle of hydrocodone from some stitches I got a while back. Can't stand taking them when I was in legitimate pain so I see no value in taking them recreationally.
It's different in my experience. When you are in pain you don't get the euphoria, you only get it when you aren't in pain. At this point though if someone slipped me 5 of them without me knowing I wouldn't even feel it enough to know they did it. When you take high doses of opioids for a long time your brain builds more and more opioid receptors, which is why people's tolerance increases and why they can't get the high like the early days. To get high now I need at least 120mgs of oxycodone just to feel anything, but I usually take 200-300mgs in a 24 hour period, and it's just a nice high. To give you an idea of how much that is its equal to about 50-100 hydrocodones, depending on their strength and costs around $200 for the day. Like I said I really do enjoy it, and I would like to do them one day out of every 6 weeks, but I can't find them and don't really look. I didn't take any after I stopped for a couple of years but then I decided I wanted to do them on occasion because they are awesome so I decided on once every 6 weeks, I never did them more than once a month after I stopped, and it was great until the people I know switched to heroin so no more for me at all. It's no biggie and I don't think Bour it but I would like a nice high every once in a while.
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Posted on 7/18/15 at 3:02 pm to lsu480
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The last thing you said that was wrong is that heroin isn't guaranteed to ruin your life and again that is just wrong.
There's nothing wrong with the statement "heroin isn't guaranteed to ruin your life".
A shite ton of people have done heroin without ruining their lives.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 3:06 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
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A shite ton of people have done heroin without ruining their lives
Yes there are people that have tried it, even multiple times, and it has not ruined their lives. Once they are hooked though, and if you use it enough you WILL become hooked, your life will be ruined in time. Yes some people can get their life back using rehab or meds but their lives will be ruined until they do.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 3:59 pm to lsu480
you want a god's honest answer?
sex. sex drives drugs.
you go to buy some weed or to have some drinks, there is a pretty hot girl there and she's on one and she's smoking some meth and wants you to come party with her, she's ready to get down, you're gonna do it to get laid.
that's how pretty much everyone i know that did drugs gets hooked. that' verbatium how i got hooked. went on a random arse date with this girl with a killer body. by the end of the night i'm snorting coke off her tits. then when we run out of coke she asks me to buy some crack by now i'm high as frick and honry and like frick it lol let's do this
sex. sex drives drugs.
you go to buy some weed or to have some drinks, there is a pretty hot girl there and she's on one and she's smoking some meth and wants you to come party with her, she's ready to get down, you're gonna do it to get laid.
that's how pretty much everyone i know that did drugs gets hooked. that' verbatium how i got hooked. went on a random arse date with this girl with a killer body. by the end of the night i'm snorting coke off her tits. then when we run out of coke she asks me to buy some crack by now i'm high as frick and honry and like frick it lol let's do this
Posted on 7/18/15 at 4:06 pm to SohCahToa
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, i can tell you from experience that no one WANTS to do heroin
i am not going to do heroin, but i want to
i wanna see what it's all about
Posted on 7/18/15 at 4:08 pm to lsu480
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Yes there are people that have tried it, even multiple times, and it has not ruined their lives. Once they are hooked though, and if you use it enough you WILL become hooked,
that's simply not true. something like 95% of heroin users don't become hooked (and that includes multiple times of usage)
addiction is being more and more linked to social stimuli and not the drugs themselves. i'd imagine anxiety and OCD also play big roles
Posted on 7/18/15 at 4:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
Heroin is an opiate so yes if you do enough you will become physically addicted, as to whether or not you become an addict is up for debate.
Posted on 7/18/15 at 4:14 pm to Agforlife
well let me clarify. i'm not talking about regular usage (multiple times in a week) over like 3+ months
but it's almost guaranteed if you do that, you're subject to the socialization that creates an addict
so it's not even really the heroin, per se
but it's almost guaranteed if you do that, you're subject to the socialization that creates an addict
so it's not even really the heroin, per se
Posted on 7/18/15 at 7:14 pm to vengeanceofrain
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sex. sex drives drugs.
For some people maybe. But that's not the end all be all answer. Some people just like the feeling
Posted on 7/18/15 at 7:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i'd imagine anxiety and OCD also play big roles
They do
Posted on 7/18/15 at 7:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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quote: Yes there are people that have tried it, even multiple times, and it has not ruined their lives. Once they are hooked though, and if you use it enough you WILL become hooked,
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that's simply not true. something like 95% of heroin users don't become hooked (and that includes multiple times of usage) addiction is being more and more linked to social stimuli and not the drugs themselves. i'd imagine anxiety and OCD also play big roles
He wasn't saying all people will get hooked. He was just saying the people who do get hooked will have their lives ruined 100% of the time
And as far as addiction being linked to social stimuli and not the actual drug, I'd say that depends on which drug. Uppers/party drugs like coke or X? Sure I could see that. But opiates like heroin or oxy? It's definitely the actual drug and the physical dependence that plays the biggest role
Posted on 7/18/15 at 7:19 pm to lsu480
I disagree, sorry
Posted on 7/18/15 at 7:20 pm to jg8623
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And as far as addiction being linked to social stimuli and not the actual drug, I'd say that depends on which drug. Uppers/party drugs like coke or X? Sure I could see that. But opiates like heroin or oxy?
i've experienced that, actually. #pills #LChard #BHS01 #thuglife
Posted on 7/18/15 at 7:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
Not sure why all the hashtags Posted on 7/18/15 at 7:27 pm to rebeloke
Sex - women who do meth become sex machines and guys do meth with them because they want all the sex -- of course, once addicted, "the thrill is gone."
Posted on 7/18/15 at 7:30 pm to jg8623
my generation from my hometown/high school had a bit of an opiate era. it was quite the socially accepted and promoted drug grouping
Posted on 7/18/15 at 7:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
I hear ya. I myself had some experience. Too much unfortunately
Posted on 7/18/15 at 7:34 pm to jg8623
yeah i have a handful of friends and social contemporaries who died from opiate use/abuse. it was a legit problem and had some major "low points"
but in general, lots of very white guys acting very hard in the most zombie way possible (hence the)
luckily i was in BR during most of that era so my battle scars are very minimal
but in general, lots of very white guys acting very hard in the most zombie way possible (hence the
) luckily i was in BR during most of that era so my battle scars are very minimal
Posted on 7/18/15 at 7:40 pm to rebeloke
Heroin at the beginning isn't dark and evil like you think. It's like a line of a strong pain medication from your doctor. Needles come down the line. We see many young people coming into the E.R. having withdrawal symptoms like the flu who don't use needles and started bc it is cheaper than the pain pills they used to get and easier to acquire.
Meth is just trash.
Meth is just trash.
This post was edited on 7/18/15 at 7:40 pm
Posted on 7/18/15 at 7:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
I must not have been too far behind your time because it sounds like you describing a few people we used to hang around in high school
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