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What is the real meaning of this racial epithet?
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:37 am
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:37 am
With all the news of the BLM movement resulting in violence against people and causing to question if this is really a social movement or just an excuse for random violence leading to hate crimes, it has caused me to question what is the real meaning or connotation of using the disgusting N word to describe people. And what I have realized as I have gotten older is that I really don't think that word is race specific. For me, the meaning of that epithet has changed more from describing race to more of describing an attitude. For me, it means more about describing a person with an attitude of absolute entitlement. Someone who believes that everything is owed to them, and they don't have to put forth one ounce of effort to contribute anything back to society. I think if you suck off the teat of society, and give nothing back; then this word appropriately describes you. Now following this logic, this epithet can be applied to anyone of any race, color, descent, heritage, etc. To me, it is not just specific to one group of people. Its all about the attitude. What say the OT?
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:38 am to uptownsage
Cliffs? Can't see over that wall of text.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:40 am to uptownsage
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And what I have realized as I have gotten older is that I really don't think that word is race specific.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:40 am to uptownsage
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what I have realized as I have gotten older is that I really don't think that word is race specific.
When did you realize you'd become senile, as well?
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:47 am to uptownsage
The name "White Cliffs of Dover" is not racially motivated.
The cliffs are white chalk with streaks of black flint imbedded.
Get over (or around) it.
too high/couldn't scale
The cliffs are white chalk with streaks of black flint imbedded.
Get over (or around) it.
too high/couldn't scale
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:51 am to uptownsage
The word is definitely race specific, but is used to describe character rather than skin color. "White trash" is used the same way.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:53 am to uptownsage
Yea, uhhh no.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:03 am to uptownsage
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Someone who believes that everything is owed to them, and they don't have to put forth one ounce of effort to contribute anything back to society. I think if you suck off the teat of society, and give nothing back; then this word appropriately describes you.
Did you just call Nado Jenkins the n-word?
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:06 am to uptownsage
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the meaning of that epithet has changed more from describing race to more of describing an attitude
The N word has always been used to control people.
If I can make you mad, then I am controlling you. Whatever was important to you before is no longer as important as getting even with the person using the epithet.
And until you realize this, someone will control you for the rest of your life.
If I can get you talking about BLM or racism, then I have deliberately narrowed your life over the next few days.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:09 am to uptownsage
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word is race specific
ok for black people to say and if a white person says it they are racist...yeh it makes no sense
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:09 am to uptownsage
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uptownsage
Beware of PC police.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:10 am to uptownsage
TLDR 
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:12 am to Topwater Trout
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ok for black people to say and if a white person says it they are racis
Akin to "bitch," it depends on context.
I have white friends who use it in non-pejorative contexts, and black friends who won't use the term even in exclusively black company.
There's never any doubt about the etymology of the word, though.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:15 am to TbirdSpur2010
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When did you realize you'd become senile, as well?
Strangely enough, I did literally see two white kids call each other this a few years ago.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:22 am to c on z
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Strangely enough, I did literally see two white kids call each other this a few years ago.
Yeah, the "term of endearment" variation of the word is definitely not race-specific in the eyes of most younger folks. It's basically slang for "my brotha," or something along those lines.
The epithet version (RE: "hard 'r'" version
) is still very race-specific, IMO.Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:24 am to TbirdSpur2010
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I have white friends who use it in non-pejorative contexts,
I can't lie I feel uncomfortable when I hear my black friends use it. I don't think its used with hate when white people say it as much as black people believe it is. Some black people instantly label a white person racist if they utter the word...to me that is ridiculous.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:30 am to Topwater Trout
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I don't think its used with hate when white people say it as much as black people believe it is. Some black people instantly label a white person racist if they utter the word...to me that is ridiculous.
I mean, most folks can discern when it's being used as a pejorative or not. Again, the similarities to women and using the words "bitch" or "count" are strikingly similar if you substitute race for gender.
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I can't lie I feel uncomfortable when I hear my black friends use it.
I have to have a feel for the company I'm in. Even the term of endearment variation is filed under "crass" language in my mind, so I don't use it unless I know the tenor of the group I'm in.
I'd likely get my arse beat if I used it around my parents, regardless of context. I encourage my white wife to use the term because occasionally because I'm a bastard
Everyone I hoop with uses the "a" variation of the term liberally
It just depends, man. It's complicated, like a lot of words. I have a problem with folks that are "all or nothing" one way or the other, tbh.Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:37 am to TbirdSpur2010
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most folks can discern when it's being used as a pejorative or not.
true but I am not chancing it
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women and using the words "bitch
I have had this backfire a few times
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I encourage my white wife to use the term because occasionally because I'm a bastard
now that is funny...I doubt she ever says it
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:38 am to Topwater Trout
quote:That is the problem! The "word" has different meanings for different people but more importantly it depends on the race of the person using the word which also determines what the word represents.
black people to say and if a white person says it they are racist
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:38 am to uptownsage
I'd say you're a dumb son of a bitch
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