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re: What is the logic behind closing schools?

Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:33 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:33 am to
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How does the tenor of the coverage of an event influence the reality of it?

you're asking how promoting hysteria and irrationality in large populations influence the reality of how those populations respond?

i can summarize with 3 words: toilet paper shortage

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The virus behaves differently depending on how the media talks about it?

the virus isn't dangerous. at worst it has a 1% morality rate and that's highly skewed towards very specific at risk populations.

HOWEVER, the various responses of the populations of our country are very dangerous

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Italy is shutdown because of hysterical media coverage?

Italy is shut down b/c they were irresponsible on the other end of the pole (by ignoring it as a threat entirely)
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:35 am to
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It amazes me how we all of a sudden have OT experts on how to handle something that hasn't been a thing in any of our lifetimes.



Exactly. We are all rookies in this and we want to know everything. We just don't.

There is no perfect answer. Think about all of the school employees over the age of 60. There are a bunch. They would be hit before grandparents no? Schools aren't just filled with hot 23 year blondes who get put on the News.

This is a first time. Hopefully an only time. But it is a very odd and unique time. I hope we learn from it.
This post was edited on 3/14/20 at 9:36 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:36 am to
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Hopefully an only time.

not a chance. this is going to become more and more common, especially with the industrialization of SSA
Posted by RabidTiger
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:38 am to
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at worst it has a 1% morality rate


The current mortality rate estimate from the WHO is 3.4%. The mortality rate in Wuhan was 4.9%.

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Italy is shut down b/c they were irresponsible on the other end of the pole (by ignoring it as a threat entirely)


This board is still trying to ignore it as a threat entirely, but somehow the real problem is too much coverage?
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:39 am to
Are we paying the teachers to sit home?
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:40 am to
I hope it is an only time where we are panic-stricken and unaware.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475998 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:42 am to
true. this is small potatoes

if something similar to Nipah emerges with easy transmission it's going to be like the movie Contagion

i imagine after COVID-19 (which is going to cost the US trillions), we're going to be much more responsive to outbreaks in Asia/Africa
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475998 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:43 am to
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This board is still trying to ignore it as a threat entirely,

because it's not a threat to the vast majority on this board

this board is also not the population that would overrun the ER

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but somehow the real problem is too much coverage




the OT is also not THAT population
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:44 am to
I bought 4 years worth of TP
Posted by Groundscrew85
Member since Oct 2018
685 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:46 am to
I think I will go with the experts on this rather than listen to people like you and me. If they want to shut down schools for a month then we need to. We have never seen anything like this before.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475998 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:48 am to
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We have never seen anything like this before.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475998 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:49 am to
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I bought 4 years worth of TP

the fact that people are denying the effects of spreading hysteria, when there are numerous clear examples of hysteria in the population, is crazy to me
Posted by Groundscrew85
Member since Oct 2018
685 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:02 am to
In our lifetime we haven’t. Please tell me when?
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
15001 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:05 am to
Liberals are in charge of all levels of education.....they are monkey see monkey do lemmings. This is ridiculous over reaction from people who operate from "feelings" and "fear"....sad.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475998 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:11 am to
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In our lifetime we haven’t.

only because of social media and the news media. both have combined to create mass hysteria

the actual issues aren't as severe as H1N1 outbreak of 2009 ("swine flu") or SARS (which has a near 10% mortality rate)

Posted by Groundscrew85
Member since Oct 2018
685 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:16 am to
It is more contagious than either one of those hence the death rate will be higher. SARS only killed about 800 people globally.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:17 am to
There is plenty of hysteria, a woman I work with literally bought 20 rolls of TP
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
2374 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:19 am to
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Liberals are in charge of all levels of education.....they are monkey see monkey do lemmings. This is ridiculous over reaction from people who operate from "feelings" and "fear"....sad.

Would you feel fear if one of your elderly parents or grandparents tested positive?
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118250 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:21 am to
What’s your IPA stash to toilet paper roll ratio look like?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475998 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:29 am to
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It is more contagious than either one of those hence the death rate will be higher.

death...rate?

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SARS only killed about 800 people globally.

oh death totals

somewhat irrelevant to this discussion b/c influenza kills a bunch more EVERY year than COVID-19 will this year
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