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re: What happens when we die?
Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:11 pm to mizzoukills
Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:11 pm to mizzoukills
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Question is...where does our conscious reside? Does our conscious continue as our atoms become a part of something else? Reincarnation????
Our conscious is merely a function of our brain. Once that dies, so does your conscious.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:13 pm to ctiger69
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There are hundreds of videos and books of people who have seen heaven and met Jesus. They describe in detail of how marvelous heaven actually is. I encourage you to read this information from eye witnesses.
I don't believe this at all.
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Being good will not get you into heaven. It has nothing to do with it. Good people go to hell all the time.
Neither this.
How ridiculous. What's the point of life, in your opinion? To be born (with sin), baptised (to cleanse the sin) then and accept JC as your savior?. That's it? The end?
What a bunch of childish foolishness.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:14 pm to Hulkklogan
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Our conscious is merely a function of our brain. Once that dies, so does your conscious.
How can you be so certain? Sure, it's easy to believe the conscious just exists in our brain and once dead so will be our conscious. But our brain is composed of a molecular structure. Question is: How deep (or small) does our conscious go?
Could our conscious, even in some fleeting way, continue on with the atoms we leave behind?
Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:15 pm to Hulkklogan
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Our conscious is merely a function of our brain. Once that dies, so does your conscious.
In all probability, yes. But you cannot really say for certain.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:15 pm to mizzoukills
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This is actually amazing because I'm well known on here for being able to carry on deep discussions. What you seek is the same thing I seek (whether you realize it or not).
Perhaps you need to realize you attacked me for really nothing at all. I just posted one sentence and you went fricking ballistic.
Your first post in a thread which asked explicitly to NOT make it religious...
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It takes more courage to truly believe in God and proselytize than to not believe in God.
Yeah...I bullied you.
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But you're just no different than the people who long ago ruined your ability to passionately discuss somewhat taboo topics.
No, a-hole...you purposefully refusing to abide by the OP's wishes and tossing a bomb into a perfectly fine discussion is EXACTLY what ended up derailing those discussions. Had you wanted to simply join the discussion, you could have. Instead, you tossed out that little nugget which not only had NOTHING to do with the OP's question but was done so precisely to troll the non believers in this thread.
Honestly...if that's your role here, fine. But at least own it.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:17 pm to GeauxTigerTM
dude, I've moved on from your attacks in this thread. If you want to rejoin the conversation at hand, so be it. Take a breath. I'm no longer mentioning God.



Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:17 pm to mizzoukills
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Could our conscious, even in some fleeting way, continue on with the atoms we leave behind?
And if it could, this would indicate that it would also pre-date our life.
Matter is neither created nor destroyed. Perhaps conscious isn't either. perhaps our humanity os created as teh aggregate of all the minute consciousnesses congealed and brought together as we grow (through first formation of our DNA helix).
Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:19 pm to Heathens
I've brought a few cardiac arrests back on the ambulance, well I should say we did. I've had one tell me to the T about slipping while getting out of ambulance. I've had one they told me while he was flat lined and cpr on going telling my driver "this ain't nascar, be careful." My dad flatlined and recalled angels but said not like what we think of angels. Said it was more like warriors and he knew exactly what they were there for. He was shocked in ER and brought back. He remembers seeing demons also but they wouldn't get near him b/c of angels. Never known him to lie. He never told me all that until years later when I asked him. We didn't church much before then. Next day he told me to go get baptized and he has been going to church regularly since heart attack 20 years ago. He has already posted in this thread fwiw. Awkward we know each other's screen name I know 

Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:19 pm to Hulkklogan
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Our conscious is merely a function of our brain. Once that dies, so does your conscious.
Seems the most likely, yes. It's essentially the software running on the hardware that is your brain.
Case in point...brain injuries. When one has a traumatic brain injury, where does what was lost go? is it still there, hiding? Off to heaven waiting for the rest of it? Or is it more likely that as the machinery is broken the software has no place to reside?
Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:21 pm to Heathens
Religions are political organizations that have nothing to do with God. That may be why religion does nothing for you.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:21 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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And if it could, this would indicate that it would also pre-date our life.
Which brings us full circle to the idea of reincarnation...
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Matter is neither created nor destroyed. Perhaps conscious isn't either. perhaps our humanity os created as teh aggregate of all the minute consciousnesses congealed and brought together as we grow (through first formation of our DNA helix).
I totally agree with you.
Question is: Are we, humans and animals, a collection of individual conscious', or perhaps one conscious of which all life merely taps into.
Think of conscious as perhaps water in the Earth. We drill wells to reach the water. Eventually the wells go dry but the same amount of water still resides within the Earth. We just need to drill a new well.
If what we know as conscious exists uniformly throughout the universe, does that mean the universe itself is perhaps "intelligent"?
Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:22 pm to Heathens
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Thanks I'll look into that for sure, I mean I believe in God and I am a religious man, I just have my questions.
Heathens, having doubt in the Bible, God, and Jesus is normal. Once you become a Christian it does not mean all of your troubles are over. It can be a bumpy road or a roller coaster ride. It makes yourself a bigger target for Satan as he tugs at your soul trying to win you back. Keep your faith strong and God will not allow you to drift to far away.
You can find a lot of your answers below. This is a great website. Click on menu then go to questions. Then look at Bible difficulties later on. Lots of great info for your questions.
LINK

Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:25 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Our conscious is merely a function of our brain. Once that dies, so does your conscious.
GeauxTigerTM
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Seems the most likely, yes. It's essentially the software running on the hardware that is your brain.
Good metaphor but not necessarily accurate
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Case in point...brain injuries. When one has a traumatic brain injury, where does what was lost go? is it still there, hiding? Off to heaven waiting for the rest of it? Or is it more likely that as the machinery is broken the software has no place to reside?
The information is still there. The connections are just damaged. For what it's worth, we don't know what an individual experiences within his her brain visions throughout a traumatic brain injury. For all we know their dreamscape is still very vivid. Or not. We don't know.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:25 pm to mizzoukills
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How can you be so certain? Sure, it's easy to believe the conscious just exists in our brain and once dead so will be our conscious. But our brain is composed of a molecular structure. Question is: How deep (or small) does our conscious go?
Could our conscious, even in some fleeting way, continue on with the atoms we leave behind?
In my opinion, no. If the brain cannot function then consciousness cannot happen. Part of the brain's function is our concious, not the brain material itself.
You really want to warp your head for a second? Whenever we are studying the human brain, it's literally a human brain studying another human brain to figure out how the F it works. The brain is so complicated that it does not even understand how it itself works. :mindblown:
Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:25 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Seems the most likely, yes. It's essentially the software running on the hardware that is your brain.
Case in point...brain injuries. When one has a traumatic brain injury, where does what was lost go? is it still there, hiding? Off to heaven waiting for the rest of it? Or is it more likely that as the machinery is broken the software has no place to reside?
An apt analogy, imo.
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The information is still there. The connections are just damaged. For what it's worth, we don't know what an individual experiences within his her brain visions throughout a traumatic brain injury. For all we know their dreamscape is still very vivid. Or not. We don't know.
This is true. Much like a faulty hard drive, the information can still be there, but inaccessible. The operating system (the consciousness in this analogy) can still be functional, but you can't open all of the "programs".
This post was edited on 8/31/16 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:27 pm to Hulkklogan
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You really want to warp your head for a second? Whenever we are studying the human brain, it's literally a human brain studying another human brain to figure out how the F it works. The brain is so complicated that it does not even understand how it itself works. :mindblown:
which means we know very little about the capacity of the brain, and even less about conscious...wouldn't you agree?
Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:28 pm to mizzoukills
what about the "soul"??? I hope that isn't a taboo topic...
Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:28 pm to mizzoukills
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which means we know very little about the capacity of the brain, and even less about conscious...wouldn't you agree?
Absolutely.
I'm just stating my opinions on the matter. That is a far cry from hard fact. I could be completely wrong.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:31 pm to Hulkklogan
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I'm just stating my opinions on the matter. That is a far cry from hard fact. I could be completely wrong.
We all are just stating opinions in this thread which is why it's such a fun topic.
This topic allows us to truly contemplate our place within the universe and what it means to be "alive" or "dead".
For what it's worth, I'm not sure I believe we're ever truly "alive" or "dead". I believe we may exist in multiple forms, but we cannot understand the complexities of the universe, our place within the universe, or what it truly means to "exist".

Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:36 pm to mizzoukills
I believe it's fairly simple.. We are alive because our body and brain are functioning. When we die, we are just part of a cycle of life and death. A very small, insignificant part of a very large universe. Most people's short life doesn't mean much to the grand scheme of their city, state, country, or even our planet.. let alone our universe.
This frightens some people because they don't want to feel small or insignificant, but I embrace that idea and I think it helps me keep things in perspective whenever something tragic happens around me, such as losing a loved one.
This frightens some people because they don't want to feel small or insignificant, but I embrace that idea and I think it helps me keep things in perspective whenever something tragic happens around me, such as losing a loved one.
This post was edited on 8/31/16 at 3:36 pm
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