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re: What do you consider "Upper Middle Class"?

Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:27 pm to
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:27 pm to
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Most wealthy people, especially older ones, drive domestic vehicles, live in modest homes, and take the same vacations to Destin like everyone else. They didn't get to that level in life by flaunting their money.


If you are considering wealthy and upper class the same, then this statement is not true except the flaunting it in front of people. Upper Class people dont live like middle class.

You have multiple houses for different seasons, you have cars that fit their purpose for the area and occasions, you dont go on week long vacations to florida, you go to other countries. etc...
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:28 pm to
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considered an engineer by my peers.


a mud engineer?
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:29 pm to
That would depend on your definition of "wealth."
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:29 pm to
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you have cars that fit their purpose for the area and occasions


You also have someone drive you. You can make money sitting in the backseat.
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:30 pm to
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and I'm considered an engineer by my peers.



Posted by Corkfather
Houston
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:30 pm to
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a mud engineer?


I was a completion fluids engineer at one point, I'm on the downstream side now (process).
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:30 pm to
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Yeah, it's the $30K that I have the biggest problem with. That's a lot to put away on $150K per year.

I would consider $30K a bare minimum of savings for someone making that much, unless you have several (4+) kids.

Also assuming you live in the south; in NYC that'd probably would be impossible.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:30 pm to
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You also have someone drive you. You can make money sitting in the backseat.


Not necessarily, a lot of wealthy/upper class drive themselves, its really dependent on the locale though
Posted by saderade
America's City
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:30 pm to
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And sadly, that is the median household in the US. Not lower middle class.
Why can't the median household number be considered lower middle class? That is exactly where I would put it.
Posted by Chris Farley
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:30 pm to
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I didn't think it would be fair to compare married two income families to single mothers.


It's probably not, but that's also not how the world works. The single mother still has the pay the same tuition and still put the same dinner on the table for her kids so it really is comparable. That's why household income is the most accurate and broad way to measure economic class.
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:31 pm to
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That would depend on your definition of "wealth."


Sam Walton was the exception not the rule. The truly wealthy live in a different world for the most part.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:31 pm to
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no 24 hr pay on any platform I've ever been on unless something really bad was going on



I used to work on an anchor handling boat back in the day and we got paid for every minute we were out there.

That was almost 20 years ago, but as a kid fresh out of high school and doing that for the summers while in college, The OT after 2 days of being out there was great.

I quit after the 3rd hitch because I valued my life more than the money.
Posted by TexasTiger01
Lake Houston
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:31 pm to
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I dropped out, been working in the oilfield for 3 years or so now


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I'm considered an engineer by my peers.


Sounds legit

ETA: Sorry for the thread highjack, my trolling is done.
This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 3:32 pm
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:32 pm to
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What do you consider "Upper Middle Class"?


po people
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:32 pm to
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a mud engineer?


I was a completion fluids engineer at one point, I'm on the downstream side now (process).


so a process engineer?
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19750 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:32 pm to
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Sounds legit


I could give two fricks how it sounds to you, because you don't sign my check.
Posted by Chris Farley
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:32 pm to
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Why can't the median household number be considered lower middle class? That is exactly where I would put it.


Median is the exact middle. How did you pass 3rd grade math?
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:33 pm to
Yessir.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:33 pm to
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I would consider $30K a bare minimum of savings for someone making that much, unless you have several (4+) kids.

Also assuming you live in the south; in NYC that'd probably would be impossible.


I don't know COL down there but after funding the 401K and ROTH the person would have about $6400 a month to live on and perhaps less. Take out a mortgage and other housing expenses and a car payment plus normal spending money and that extra $750 a month to save can become tight.

It's not doable in this area.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 3:33 pm to
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I was a completion fluids engineer at one point, I'm on the downstream side now (process).


Times are good, money's flowing like water, everybody loves everybody.

This is the oilfield, that shite'll turn on a dime.
Be smart, go finish and get the degree.
That way, you won't be the first one run off.
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