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re: What Big Pharma (and theFDA) dont want you to know about Opioid Epidemic

Posted on 6/2/16 at 5:50 pm to
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
30390 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 5:50 pm to
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lazy arse doctors aren't one with physical therapy, natural herbs, and actual care for patients' wellbeing like they should


Because most of those treatments are not effective. Most of my patients do not care for their own well being. I can assure you no amount of pt or milk thistle is going to heal a diabetic ulcer or a charcot foot.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 5:53 pm to
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I can't take Toradol or Motrin


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This is ABSOLUTELY how it goes down every single time.


So much it was featured in that video I posted.



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It is no fun having to be suspicious of every single person who walks in the office complaining of pain.



Even as a peds nurse I hate feeling suspicious of certain patients when they complain of pain. Especially if I read in the doctor's H&P in the chart the teenager has a history of drug abuse.

We are taught over and over and over in nursing to make sure to treat pain adequately. "It's the 5th vital sign!" drilled into our heads all the time. There is so much charting we now have to do regarding pain as well.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27569 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 6:16 pm to
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Narcotics should never be used as a treatment. As a temporary adjunct to actual treatment though they are very effective. When they come out with readily available and cost effective substitute that is not addictive I'm sure the collective medical community will rejoice.


This magical med has been around. Cox-2 inhibitors. It's just the side effects. Vioxx was pulled. They all make your arse bleed and increase cardiac risk. Opiates have only two side effects. Take too much? Stop breathing, but you're a dumbass. And addiction.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27569 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 6:21 pm to
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We are taught over and over and over in nursing to make sure to treat pain adequately. "It's the 5th vital sign!" drilled into our heads all the time. There is so much charting we now have to do regarding pain as well.


That's joint commission stupidity. Add HCAPS to the equation at hospital level and it's a systemic created epidemic. Sure this is America and we are greedy so the potential is always there, but these measures threw gas on that fire.
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
7147 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 7:06 pm to
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May be some merit to this, may not be. But it doesn't change the fact that these patients are not being given prescriptions against there wishes.

You're right about having a choice but we as patients did not go to med school. We go by their word and recommendations. Well I don't anymore.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73136 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 7:10 pm to
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I crushed them all and trashed them.
be honest you crushed them and smelled them, why else crush them, to ruin pills you put in water or vinegar or bleach.

Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
7147 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 7:34 pm to
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Because most of those treatments are not effective. Most of my patients do not care for their own well being. I can assure you no amount of pt or milk thistle is going to heal a diabetic ulcer or a charcot foot.


Garlic, acv, passionflower.... there is a natural and inexpensive otc alternatives to most of whats behind the pharmacy counter. Anything from birth to death. There's even a natural nextdaypill type of flower. Every adult is responsible to know this basic shite but we've been taught to go to the doctor and take the prescription meds and procedures.
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 7:39 pm to
Read today that Prince died from an overdose of Fentanyl. Guess he didn't know how potent it is.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 8:27 pm to
The average person prescribed and opioid for the first time does not understand the addiction risks associated with the drug. Too many assume that if their physician prescribed it and they follow the instructions it should no different than taking Advil.

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From PDR warning,

5.1 Addiction, Abuse, and Misuse

OXYCONTIN contains oxycodone, a Schedule II controlled substance. As an opioid, OXYCONTIN exposes users to the risks of addiction, abuse, and misuse [see Drug Abuse and Dependence (9" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noreferrer">. As modified-release products such as OXYCONTIN deliver the opioid over an extended period of time, there is a greater risk for overdose and death due to the larger amount of oxycodone present [see Drug Abuse and Dependence (9" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noreferrer">.

Although the risk of addiction in any individual is unknown, it can occur in patients appropriately prescribed OXYCONTIN. Addiction can occur at recommended doses and if the drug is misused or abused.
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