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What are your thoughts on people who commit suicide?
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:01 pm
Someone that works at the same place of employment as me committed suicide last night. Dude left behind two kids. Apparently he was put on suicide watch about a week ago and still did the deed. Organization is pretty depressed and sad. No one can say how they really feel though, that the guy was a selfish prick who had all of these outlets and resources he could've used to help him cope yet he decided to leave loved ones behind with the pain of his loss. I'm not even sure if the insurance will pay out which would really put the nail in the coffin. This is why people say if you commit suicide you go to hell. You can't tell me suicidal individuals don't think about their loved ones before they execute their plan. Am I in the wrong here? Should I feel bad for thinking this way?
I know there are different cases, and I really do feel for the ones who have been so damaged and legit have no way out, I'm not referring to those people I guess.
I know there are different cases, and I really do feel for the ones who have been so damaged and legit have no way out, I'm not referring to those people I guess.
This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 7:03 pm
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Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:03 pm to 13SaintTiger
This definitely won't get religious.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:04 pm to ell_13
Cowards
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:04 pm to 13SaintTiger
My wife tells me to keep my thoughts on suicide to myself bc others will probably find it offensive. I'll leave it at that. I feel horrible for the families and try to remember them in my prayers.
This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:05 pm to 13SaintTiger
I feel for the loved ones. Suicide is clearly a tough subject. There must be something very wrong with a person to have the urge to take their own life. Yet, it almost seems selfish to leave your loved ones behind. All you can do is keep the remaining family in your thoughts and prayers, and offer your help wherever you can.
Sorry to hear about your loss.
Sorry to hear about your loss.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:05 pm to 13SaintTiger
My guess is that they feel their loved ones will be better off without them. I think they think it's the only way out.
As someone who contemplated it during one very sad period, I can say that it pissed me off that I needed to stick around so that my parents and others wouldn't be sad. frick other people's expectations. Obviously, I decided to be a responsible human, but that's because I wasn't mentally ill. I actually could reason and think it through. People who go through with it aren't so lucky. Yay, me?
As someone who contemplated it during one very sad period, I can say that it pissed me off that I needed to stick around so that my parents and others wouldn't be sad. frick other people's expectations. Obviously, I decided to be a responsible human, but that's because I wasn't mentally ill. I actually could reason and think it through. People who go through with it aren't so lucky. Yay, me?
This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:05 pm to 13SaintTiger
I know some people who thought their family was better of without them. I also know someone that had some dreadful genetic disease that causes you to lose your mind.
I think there is a reason that ancient wisdom says don't judge people.
I do feel for the family and instead of sitting in judgment, find a way to help a widow.
I think there is a reason that ancient wisdom says don't judge people.
I do feel for the family and instead of sitting in judgment, find a way to help a widow.
This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:06 pm to 13SaintTiger
Not every person that commits suicide is the same.
You can't really lump them together with a question like that.
You can't really lump them together with a question like that.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:06 pm to 13SaintTiger
Some say it's sort of like an illness or disease. Not sure if I would say it is selfish. It's not like he ran off to Florida with some 19 year old side piece
This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:07 pm to Darla Hood
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My guess is that they feel their loved ones will be better off without them.
Or a cry for attention. Like "I bet they'll miss me when I'm gone".
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:08 pm to bisonduck
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I do feel for the family and instead of sitting in judgment, find a way to help a widow.
There is no widow. He was a single father.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:08 pm to 13SaintTiger
Yes, you should feel badly for thinking that way. The guy may have been to the point where he felt his family would be better off without him. That's irrational but that's how mental illness is. It's not a "snap out of it" condition. You can't snap out of diabetes, hypertension or hypercholesterolemia and you can't snap out of the black hole-like tug of depression.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:10 pm to Jake88
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Yes, you should feel badly for thinking that way. The guy may have been to the point where he felt his family would be better off without him. That's irrational but that's how mental illness is. It's not a "snap out of it" condition. You can't snap out of diabetes, hypertension or hypercholesterolemia and you can't snap out of the black hole-like tug of depression
He had help, the suicidal tendencies were caught. I guess it just didn't work.
This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:11 pm to 13SaintTiger
I think they're sick people who need help. It doesn't excuse what they do to those left behind but they're pretty clearly not in a sane frame of mind. To choose to never see your kids again is something I can't fathom.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:11 pm to 13SaintTiger
You are expecting someone with a broken mind to engage in the same logical reasoning as a normal person, it doesn't work that way. Often those that commit suicide think they are a burden to their family, friends and are helping them by killing themselves. For a long time I probably shared your views, I had never had to deal with someone that was mentally ill, unfortunately that changed and I was forced to educate myself.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:12 pm to 13SaintTiger
Help doesn't always seem like help. It's not a condition that one can easily control. The pathology takes over and drives the person over the cliff, so to speak.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:13 pm to 13SaintTiger
Speaking from an unfortunate experienced angle a person in that state is not thinking clearly at all. Most who do this are very disturbed with thinking they are helping the situation. It is a very twisted view. They are not well at all. It is a pretty unreal position. I once shared the it's selfish view. Wtf are they doing, etc.
I no longer have that. The mind is a large place. Theirs is a disaster. They are sick. It is the very fiber of our bring to survive... They are broken.
It's absolutely horrible :(
I no longer have that. The mind is a large place. Theirs is a disaster. They are sick. It is the very fiber of our bring to survive... They are broken.
It's absolutely horrible :(
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:14 pm to EA6B
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For a long time I probably shared your views, I had never had to deal with someone that was mentally ill, unfortunately that changed and I was forced to educate myself.
This isn't my first rodeo and the more it happens the more I'm left with thinking of the family members left behind.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:16 pm to Jake88
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Help doesn't always seem like help. It's not a condition that one can easily control. The pathology takes over and drives the person over the cliff, so to speak.
So why do suicidal prevention methods help some and not others?
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:19 pm to Fusaichi Pegasus
Some say cowards, selfish, weak but the mind is the most powerful thing. A hurting mind and soul can only think about one thing and that is relief. I feel sorry for the victim and the families.
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