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re: What are examples of “institutionalized racism” ?
Posted on 6/29/20 at 7:47 am to meansonny
Posted on 6/29/20 at 7:47 am to meansonny
In this entire thread there’s, at most, just a few examples. And they’re pretty mild considering all the current social unrest. We’ve established that Nigerian immigrants with their Nigerian names are not hampered by institutional racism, not to mention we just had a two-term black president with a Muslim name.
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Posted on 6/29/20 at 7:49 am to McLemore
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Your "stats" are garbage, cherry picked and reductionist. Also, most have nothing to do with a "system" that can/should be changed by law.
If you think there’s no such thing as institutional racism or racism let me ask you this- would you prefer to be treated by society as a white person or a black person? If you are being honest, we all know the answer. It’s rhetorical, so you don’t need to really answer the question
Posted on 6/29/20 at 7:50 am to Armytiger87
These days? Any organization that refuses to kiss the feet of BLM.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 7:55 am to ItalianIceMaker
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would you prefer to be treated by society as a white person or a black person?
It’s a lazy question
There are a million other factors I would consider first.
I would rather have 2 parents
I would rather be a rich black kid than a poor white kid in a trailer park
I would rather have an exceptional skill
I would rather have motivation than not
Skin color is very low on the list of things that will determine your outcome in 2020. Maybe in 1800 you would have a point.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 8:04 am to Armytiger87
violent crime statistics are very, very, very racist
Posted on 6/29/20 at 8:04 am to 0
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I worked for a guy that owned several apartment complexes while I was in college. He would find the most vague minuscule thing to not rent to black students, and often bragged about it afterwards.
So you found a racist. That’s not the same as institutional racism.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 8:10 am to Rust Cohle
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Study show that for job interviews white names are 50% more likely to be called back than black sounding names.
That paper is horse shite. Over 83% of the applications didn’t get call backs at all.
There is more variation within a race than between races.
Ebony a name that literally means black got the most call backs of any black name. It got more call backs than Emily, Anne, Jill, Allison, and Sarah.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 8:10 am to meansonny
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Did the book mention that black run mortgage shops and black loan originators were selling the subprime loans more often to blacks than white loan officers?
Because that was the actual finding and a big reason why no action was taken.
Subprime lenders did not originate the loans. They underwrote and issued them. It was local retail facilities who reviewed the borrowers application and placed the borrower with a lender.
Again, the idea that there was anything institutionalized is false.
The idea of black run institutions perpetuating the inequality is exactly what I’m talking about. the INSTITUTION or SYSTEM operates on in inherent bias. One black run institution can’t change how the entire system operates. It’s the same as thinking an all black police force is going to change how policing is done in the inner cities. The people may change but HOW things are done remains the same.
The saying: “That’s how it’s always been done” is pervasive in institutions that have discriminatory practices.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 8:12 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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Why would a hotel tell a paying customer that they were full when they weren't? Simply because they had the wrong name. I'm not saying that it's the case all the time or even most but I do believe that bank employees have turned down blacks in the past simply due to their skin color
Let’s say this assumption is true. Then we would call it individual racism. Not systemic or institutionalized. Do you understand that logic???
Posted on 6/29/20 at 8:24 am to Sammobile
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thread asks for examples. Examples are provided, the response is “well yeah, that form of discrimination is cool”
Cultural discrimination is different from racial discrimination, so quit being obtuse. No one wants to hire Billy-Joe trailer trash, either.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 8:53 am to RDRGeaux09
Have you ever been denied a loan?
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:07 am to Armytiger87
It simply doesn't exist... however, class privilege does
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:09 am to RDRGeaux09
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The idea of black run institutions perpetuating the inequality is exactly what I’m talking about. the INSTITUTION or SYSTEM operates on in inherent bias. One black run institution can’t change how the entire system operates. It’s the same as thinking an all black police force is going to change how policing is done in the inner cities. The people may change but HOW things are done remains the same.
The saying: “That’s how it’s always been done” is pervasive in institutions that have discriminatory practices.
It is obvious that you dont understand the loan application process, the loan placement process, nor what constitutes institutionalized racism.
How deep do you want to get into this?
Because you couldn't be more wrong if you tried.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:11 am to ItalianIceMaker
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If you think there’s no such thing as institutional racism or racism let me ask you this- would you prefer to be treated by society as a white person or a black person? If you are being honest, we all know the answer. It’s rhetorical, so you don’t need to really answer the question
If I was black my college would have been free. I also would have gotten into my first choice college, considering a black girl who finished lower in my class and had lower test scores and less diverse extracurriculars got in and got a full ride. My wife is a minority so you can bet that any business I start will be in her name. Except she’s Asian so our kids will have to be white when applying for grad school to avoid the anti Asian discrimination that permeates graduate applications.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:15 am to Armytiger87
See the Democratic party. There’s your systemic racism. Rather than do anything to lift the black community, they’ve made them dependent on the Fed tit. Rampant welfare programs, planned parenthood, hardcore policing, all of it. And yet they blame Repubs (who are FAR from innocent) and white conservatives for everything.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:35 am to WaWaWeeWa
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I would rather have 2 parents I would rather be a rich black kid than a poor white kid in a trailer park I would rather have an exceptional skill I would rather have motivation than not
Would you rather be treated as a rich black person from a two parent family or a rich white person from a two parent family?
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:36 am to cwil177
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If I was black my college would have been free. I also would have gotten into my first choice college, considering a black girl who finished lower in my class and had lower test scores and less diverse extracurriculars got in and got a full ride. My wife is a minority so you can bet that any business I start will be in her name. Except she’s Asian so our kids will have to be white when applying for grad school to avoid the anti Asian discrimination that permeates graduate applications.
You deflected from the question. Would you rather be treated as a black person or a white person by society? both from two payment families with equal income.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:44 am to WaWaWeeWa
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Skin color is very low on the list of things that will determine your outcome in 2020.
Low as in not relevant at all.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:45 am to ccomeaux
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violent crime statistics are very, very, very racist
Or maybe a specific segment of the population commits violent crimes, and statistics are just statistics and not racist at all.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:49 am to ItalianIceMaker
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Would you rather be treated as a rich black person from a two parent family or a rich white person from a two parent family?
You are asking a white person if he wants to change his skin color all other things being equal. What a strange question.
Do you think any self respecting black person wants to change their appearance if all other things were equal?
Your response seems more racist than anything I’ve seen in this thread.
I think black people have more self respect than you think. Shame on you.
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