re: We need to stop this thing before it kills 1 million people in the USA

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Aborting a fetus is NOT killing a human life

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Sure it is.

I’m still for abortions being legal. Poor people have the majority of abortions and I don’t want poor people having children. Id much much much much rather then not get pregnant to begin with, since, you know, it’s stupid easy to not get pregnant.... but at the end of the day, ld Rather a poor person not have a baby than have a baby.

Incentivized sterilization ftw

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Sure it is.

I’m still for abortions being legal. Poor people have the majority of abortions and I don’t want poor people having children. Id much much much much rather then not get pregnant to begin with, since, you know, it’s stupid easy to not get pregnant.... but at the end of the day, ld Rather a poor person not have a baby than have a baby.

Incentivized sterilization ftw

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See, here we have an example of someone who can own his opinions and not hide behind semantics.

Of course it's an absolutely monstrous opinion, and the person would no doubt send his enemies to the ovens with no compunction, but at least he owns his opinions.

Well you clearly said that you're fine with killing innocent human beings if it is to your benefit, so I think it's a pretty safe assumption that you would gladly see your not innocent enemies killed.

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Sounds to me like you want innocent children to suffer a life of poverty.

Why do you want children to go hungry? Why do you want innocent children to suffer?

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Two wrongs don't make a right.
I wouldn't kill an infant to save them from hardship, so I can't say it's right to kill a fetus to save them from hardship. That's a consistent opinion.

I acknowledge that one seems worse than the other, but it's not so.

The argument is between those who are against killing human beings and those who favor it. That's the whole thing, and all of the other words around it are just noise.

I also acknowledge that people are right to criticize a lack of charity in Christians, to the extent it exists. It just doesn't change the truth about abortions. It's a secondary question.

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wouldn't kill an infant to save them from hardship, so I can't say it's right to kill a fetus to save them from hardship. That's a consistent opinion.

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So you want children to suffer. Got it. You’re a fan of childhood poverty, child abuse, child neglect, etc.

The vast majority of abortions are given to those under the poverty line, most with children already. You’re dooming the child to a life of suffering all for a “moral high ground” of “but it’s alive!”.

Incentivized sterilization is the happy middle ground where everyone wins.

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would say that I don't know how you can so badly and seemingly willfully misconstrue what I'm saying

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Because that’s exactly what you’re saying.

You’re for children being born into a life of poverty and suffering simply because you choose the moral high ground of it being alive. Doesn’t matter that it’s a life of suffering that will simply continue the cycle of generational welfare. It’s alive!

If you cared about children, you’d want every child to be born into a loving household that can afford to raise that child. A home that wants that child. A home that will provide a good life for that child.

That’s what I want. You, on the other hand, love for children to be born into homes that don’t want them and can’t provide for them.

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You are saying it's worse for a child to be born into poverty than to be killed by their mothers.

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I’m saying it’s better to never be born than to live a life of suffering and continuing the cycle of generational welfare.

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It does not follow that I want children to be poor or suffer, no matter how often you repeat it.

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True or false.

5 time felon and wife abuser knocks up his prostitute roommate who has 3 children by different men. Both mother and father abuse crack.

You want the child to be born into that lifestyle.

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That may be true, but it's another way of saying that you think it would be better for their mothers to kill them than for them to have a chance at life.

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It would be best if their mother never got pregnant to begin with.
Hey there incentivized sterilization!

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better to have a chance at life than it is to be killed in the womb. True.

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So you want a wife abusing felon and his crackhead prostitute roommate with 3 kids already to have a kid.

Man. You really do love that child eh? Born with crack in its system. An abusive father whose never there. A mom who turns tricks for more crack and never spends time with her kids.

Wonder how that kid will turn up.

Atta boy. I’m sure you hate the welfare system too eh?

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We can't say for sure what anyone's individual life will be like.

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You’d be surprised. They call it generational welfare for a reason buddy.

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We don't have the right to end it before it starts, and we can't possibly consider ourselves in the right for killing them to save them from probable misery. You evidently think we do have that right and responsibility.

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The poor should have as few children as possible. We, as a society, should give them every means to NOT procreate.

It would be better off, as I’ve said from the get go, if the mother never got pregnant to begin with.