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Was Stalingrad necessary for Hitler to grab when he did?
Posted on 11/27/19 at 9:30 am
Posted on 11/27/19 at 9:30 am
It seems as if it was an act of over-confidence and arrogance. Could he have focused his forces elsewhere in the east and conserved forces and supplies, and come back to Stalingrad?
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Posted on 11/27/19 at 9:32 am to whitetiger1234
No
Posted on 11/27/19 at 9:32 am to whitetiger1234
He should have bypassed it and taken the oil fields instead. Hitler wanted to take Stalingrad to embarrass Stalin.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 9:33 am to whitetiger1234
I've been watching that documentary too.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 9:33 am to whitetiger1234
No but the result would’ve been no different in any other major city.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 9:33 am to Pandy Fackler
It’s so damn good.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 9:35 am to whitetiger1234
No. I’m fact, even had he took Stalingrad it would not have helped. He didn’t need Stalingrad.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 9:38 am to SD Tider
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He should have bypassed it and taken the oil fields instead.
That and he should have delivered the knock out punch and taken Moscow
Posted on 11/27/19 at 9:38 am to whitetiger1234
Absolutely not.
He should have massed on the Caucasus oilfields and secured that strategic objective prior to getting into a d*ck measuring contest with Uncle Joe.
He should have massed on the Caucasus oilfields and secured that strategic objective prior to getting into a d*ck measuring contest with Uncle Joe.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 9:44 am to Pandy Fackler
What documentary?
Posted on 11/27/19 at 10:04 am to DLSWVA
Netflix: Greatest Events of WW II in Colour.
It’s good.
It’s good.
This post was edited on 11/27/19 at 10:05 am
Posted on 11/27/19 at 10:06 am to DLSWVA
Greatest Events of WWII in Colour. It’s a Netflix original and it’s fantastic.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 10:06 am to whitetiger1234
No, His ego got in the way. If he had stuck to his original plan he would have taken it later on with ease.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 10:08 am to Anonymous95
Haven't seen this, but the WW II stuff they show on AHC is pretty awesome too.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 10:15 am to whitetiger1234
Look at it from a military perspective. What value does a population center contain?
Oil fields - value
Factories - value
Farmland / food production - value
Urban city full of civilians - no value (unless you need slave labor). On the contrary, capturing a bunch of civilians means you now have to assign personnel to occupy the area and watch/guard them.
Oil fields - value
Factories - value
Farmland / food production - value
Urban city full of civilians - no value (unless you need slave labor). On the contrary, capturing a bunch of civilians means you now have to assign personnel to occupy the area and watch/guard them.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 10:20 am to DLSWVA
It's a netflix ww2 documentary. It's pretty good.
The episode for instance on how we won the battle of midway is pretty unsettling. It was dumb luck really.
The episode for instance on how we won the battle of midway is pretty unsettling. It was dumb luck really.
This post was edited on 11/27/19 at 10:20 am
Posted on 11/27/19 at 10:27 am to whitetiger1234
I don't understand the perceptions that Stalingrad was not strategic. A quick look at a map or going to the city today proves how strategic it is. Once you cut the Volga the rest of European Russia is cut off from the south and the oil. Stalingrad made the most sense to do that.
The problem is the Germans tried to take Stalingrad and the Caucuses at the same time.
They should have picked one, and based on the concentration of Soviet forces nearer Stalingrad, that should have been the choice.
The Russians saw their opportunity by concentrating their attack on the Romanians who lacked just about anything, anti-tank weapons, artillery, coordinated air support, trucks and above all will.
Had decent German units been protecting the flanks, Stalingrad doesn't happen the way it does.
The problem is the Germans tried to take Stalingrad and the Caucuses at the same time.
They should have picked one, and based on the concentration of Soviet forces nearer Stalingrad, that should have been the choice.
The Russians saw their opportunity by concentrating their attack on the Romanians who lacked just about anything, anti-tank weapons, artillery, coordinated air support, trucks and above all will.
Had decent German units been protecting the flanks, Stalingrad doesn't happen the way it does.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 10:30 am to jbgleason
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Farmland / food production - value
One of his biggest mistakes was murdering Ukrainians, who greeted the Germans as liberators from Stalin and the Soviets.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 10:37 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
Let’s just all agree that Hitler was a drugged out psycho arse hat and leave it there.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 10:40 am to whitetiger1234
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Greatest Events of WWII in Colour. It’s a Netflix original and it’s fantastic.
Eh. It’s a rehash of wwii in color and uses much of the same film. Still amazing though.
This post was edited on 11/27/19 at 10:40 am
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