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re: Walmart is getting rid of greeters

Posted on 2/28/19 at 4:53 am to
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 4:53 am to
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Walmart told greeters around the country last week that their positions would be eliminated on April 26 in favor of an expanded, more physically demanding "customer host" role. To qualify, they will need to be able to lift 25-pound (11-kilogram) packages, climb ladders and stand for long periods.


How is this not illegal under the ADA? Since when can one be fired for not being able to perform some new bullshite role a company creates due to being handicapped?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 4:58 am to
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it may be an exemption from minimum wage laws,


it's this

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Several nonprofits, including one in Seattle, have recently been cited for underpaying workers with disabilities. But while Self Help’s infractions are outrageous, it’s also worth noting that federal law allows companies to provide less compensation to some workers with disabilities.

In addition to sometimes paying workers in gift cards, Self Help also paid them less than the minimum wage. Paying workers with disabilities in gift cards is unlawful; paying them a subminimum wage is legal. That’s because current law allows employers to pay as little as $1 per hour, or less, to workers with disabilities if they can’t perform a job as well as a person who is not disabled (the current federal minimum wage is $7.25). It’s an exemption to the Fair Labor Standards Act that has been in place for 80 years.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28715 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 5:11 am to
Amazon is ultra competitive. It’s amazing how cheap WalMart food is compared to Whole Foods yet online pricing of Amazon can kick WalMarts arse. It’ll be I tersting to see this one play out. Not a Bezos fan but the convenience of online shopping with Amazon since 2004 has saved my countless DAYS of time of not having to deal with store BS like parking, weather, and people of Walmart, malls, and etc...
Posted by toddzilla
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Nov 2012
1596 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 5:12 am to
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To qualify, they will need to be able to lift 25-pound (11-kilogram) packages, climb ladders and stand for long periods.


Don’t forget to check them receipts....
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 5:14 am to
They are there as a loss prevention issue.
I do not see how lifting 25 lbs would be required for this task.
They do greet and are there to check receipts to make sure the items in the basket are not being stolen.
They also direct people with returns to returns.

The only task they should need is see, be able to communicate with customers, and common sense.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38222 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 5:18 am to
I have yet to see a handicapped person greeting or checking receipts. I’ve seen the cart wrangling and working in other positions. But not greeting
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 5:21 am to
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Is there an exception to minimum wage or federal/state credit for mentally disabled workers?
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Yep
When I was in La in the 80's, there was one for recently released felons. Covered half their wages.
Posted by dawgsjlw
shite hole with your momma
Member since Sep 2014
826 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 5:56 am to
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The disabled workers at any Walmart are probably the best employees at 90% of Walmarts. And just because the other employees can lift 25 lbs does not mean they will lift anything as heavy as a finger on a daily basis.
It seems like an obvious ploy to get rid of them. Why would a greeter need to be able to climb ladders? Throwing that ladder bit in should tell everyone all that they need to know. Plus the "standing" for long hours part. frick a Wally world even mo.
Posted by Cajunomics
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2010
891 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 5:57 am to
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Gotta feel bad for these folks. Where will they go?


Not sure if you are being serious or just a jerk.

This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 6:00 am
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 6:15 am to
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I have yet to see a handicapped person greeting or checking receipts. I’ve seen the cart wrangling and working in other positions. But not greeting


A couple of years ago some of the locations stopped using the greeters on a regular basis.

My mentally challenged sister has worked for Walmart for over 10 years (first in BR then in AZ). She was originally a greeter when first hired. She went through a special program with the state that helped people like her find a job. They have someone assist you with job applications, go with you on interviews, etc.

Thankfully she now works in the apparel department so this won’t affect her job. But....I bet she has friends at her work that are freaking out now.
Posted by FrenchToast
The French Kitchen
Member since Jan 2016
1810 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 6:25 am to
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Not sure if you are being serious or just a jerk.

Mighty nice of you...






We should feel empathy for these folks. I think most of us are compassionate.
Posted by Ron Popeil
Mississippi coast or Fairgrounds
Member since Nov 2018
902 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 6:30 am to
I can think of a few posters on this board that will be out of work.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 7:16 am to
Do companies get subsides to hire? Dependent on state or is it at the federal level?

How about health insurance? Wondering if things changed for walmart here, so they had to adjust.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 7:17 am to
There's a kid (now a man) who has been working at the Rouse's at Power & Kawanee for at least ten years. He's about 6'-6", so he's kind of hard to miss. He bags groceries, I've seen him stocking shelves sometimes, sometimes he's on cart detail. I don't know what exactly is wrong with him, but he's not 100%. He's a little slow, but is always very friendly and courteous. If Rouse's wasn't willing to employ him, I'm not sure where he'd be.

If Rouse's gets to hire him for a discounted rate and/or gets some type of tax credit, I don't have a problem with it.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 7:23 am to
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In all seriousness...that does suck for the disabled and handicapped that do that job with pride.


There's always Luby's and Picadilly.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 7:23 am to
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Do companies get subsides to hire? Dependent on state or is it at the federal level?


I'm not sure. My mentally challenged little brother (who is 2 years older than my sister) also now works for Walmart(but one of the neighborhood grocery stores). He also used a state program in AZ that helped him find the job. I do remember his job application having lots of questions asking if you get govt assistance (SSI, etc))...so I'm assuming there are some incentives for the company to hire people like with physical and/or mental disabilities.

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How about health insurance?


My sister has some health insurance coverage at her work...not sure the extent of it cause she is considered part time(she works about 30 hrs a week....unlike my brother she doesn’t get SSI so she can work as much as she wants). Walmart doesn't have many full time positions. Just like many other minimum wage places....they won't offer as much full time positions so they don't have to offer as many benefits.


I will say both my brother and sister make the full minimum wage here in AZ (which is now $11/hr). They are not paid less cause of their disabilities.
This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 7:26 am
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 7:27 am to
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The disabled workers at any Walmart are probably the best employees at 90% of Walmarts.


Which is why repubs and dems should skyscream together. A classic trump tweet would be awesome
Posted by FrenchToast
The French Kitchen
Member since Jan 2016
1810 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 12:31 pm to
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A beloved, longtime Walmart greeter with cerebral palsy met with store management in Pennsylvania on Friday in a bid to keep his job but came away with no guarantees, and his family is girding for a fight.

Adam Catlin, who uses a walker and is legally blind, is worried he'll be out of work after store management told him he would need to be able to lift heavy weights, read receipts and perform other tasks. The retailer has been replacing "people greeters" with "customer hosts" who are responsible for helping with returns, checking receipts to help prevent shoplifting, and keeping the front of the store clean.

Catlin, 30 — who has been a fixture at the Selinsgrove store since graduating from high school — and his family met with Walmart officials for two hours Friday afternoon. His mother, Holly Catlin, said management suggested several other open positions, including cashier and photo lab assistant, none of which he is physically capable of doing.

She said she insisted her son could do the host job if Walmart would make reasonable accommodations, as required by federal disability law.

"Everyone was very nice, it wasn't ugly at all, but we didn't really get anywhere," Holly Catlin said. "I don't know where we stand, but I'm not backing down. He must still have a job. There's just no way around it."

Walmart said it's working with Catlin on a resolution.

"We recognize this is a unique situation and it will take time to explore possible solutions. As we phase the greeter role out of this store over a 60-day period, our store management and local human resource teams will be in regular contact with Adam and his family as we explore every available option to him," said Walmart spokesman Kory Lundberg. "We will be thoughtful during the process in hopes of finding a way for Adam to stay with the store."

At least a dozen disabled Walmart greeters in seven states — Illinois, New York, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Texas, Utah and Wisconsin — say they were pushed out the door, forced to accept lower pay or otherwise harmed when the retailer replaced the greeter job with host, according to the National Disability Rights Network, whose state affiliates are working with impacted employees, and in some cases suing Walmart.


Disabled Greeter Meets With Walmart About Job; No Resolution - US News.com
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117054 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 12:37 pm to
well...that sucks.
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