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re: Waitress stiffed on $735 takeout order, then fired for calling out customer on FB

Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:25 am to
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:25 am to
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Like I said before, don't order take out if you can't afford to tip the waiter a few bucks.
and as i've said a million time, who are you to tell me how to spend my money? As long as I pay my bill and my taxes, all the rest is nobody's damn business.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:26 am to
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and as i've said a million time, who are you to tell me how to spend my money? As long as I pay my bill and my taxes, all the rest is nobody's damn business.



This is a message board

If you boast about being a cheap arse little bitch don't be surprised when people criticize you for it

No one is suggesting what you're doing or not doing is illegal. They're just calling you a douche which seems appropriate enough.
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:33 am to
better to be a douche than a fool
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:34 am to
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What people fail to understand is that people in the service e industry generally make shite hourly wages(varies by state)because they are expected to make tips


What? No. Where the hell did that come from? You expect all service industry employees to receive supplementary tips?

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Like I said before, don't order take out if you can't afford to tip the waiter a few bucks.


I tip to-go, but only b/c I'm sympathetic and have been there before. But that station doesn't do enough to earn a servers tip, and they should have no expectation of one. To-go is not making $2.13/hr, and if they are, that's a management problem, not a customer problem. And it's not up to customers to determine if they are underpaid. One of the reasons people order to-go to avoid an extra 20% on top of their food. Someone packing boxes and answering phones doesn't change that.

ETA: Edited for P-man
This post was edited on 2/13/18 at 9:39 am
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:35 am to
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better to be a douche than a fool

Tipping within societal norms doesn't make you a fool

It makes you a courteous customer

If 3 dollars is going to break you then maybe you're in the wrong profession
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:36 am to
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People order to-go to avoid an extra 20% on top of their food.

I don't think that's why people order to go....
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:45 am to
I don’t think anyone is arguing for 20% on to go orders either.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:46 am to
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One of the reasons people order to-go to avoid an extra 20% on top of their food


Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33950 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:46 am to
Well it was a takeout order. Why did she expect a tip when she didn't provide any service? How silly.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:52 am to
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The real problem is, the service industry is the only one where the public is is supposed to subsidize shitty wages. Why is the public supposed to pay the wages the restaurants should be paying?


Tipping is an antiquated holdover from the Jim Crow era, when the railroads used to hire black folk for almost nothing and then argue that the passengers would tip them for handling their baggage and bringing them coffee. True story.

Tipping culture has gotten completely out of hand in the US. It took on a certain unique trajectory that doesn't exist anywhere else in the world, and it has gotten to the point of absurdity.

20% is crazy, y'all. If the labor costs that much, just add it to the costs of the meal. At least then I know the true cost of eating out and I'll do it less often.
This post was edited on 2/13/18 at 9:57 am
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:04 am to
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I don’t think anyone is arguing for 20% on to go orders either.

Of course not

And people aren't ordering to go to avoid tipping. They're doing it for other reasons.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:09 am to
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At least then I know the true cost of eating out and I'll do it less often.


No one is asking you to solve differential equations. If you can't ballpark what 20% of the bill is in your head then you're a moron.
Posted by Count Chocula
Tier 5 and proud
Member since Feb 2009
63908 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:13 am to
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Powerman


Hey PM....

Did you know this woman personally - or you just trying to fight the good fight?
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33950 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:15 am to
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No one is asking you to solve differential equations. If you can't ballpark what 20% of the bill is in your head then you're a moron.



And a good morning to you, too, sir.

Let's just say I suspect that 20% is actually higher than the true market value of the labor. Does that argument sit better with you? Again, 20% tipping is easily the highest in the world. It is absurd.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:15 am to
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Hey PM....

Did you know this woman personally - or you just trying to fight the good fight?

She deserved to get fired

I understand her frustration but she's not too sharp
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:17 am to
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Let's just say I suspect that 20% is actually higher than the true market value of the labor. Does that argument sit better with you? Again, 20% tipping is easily the highest in the world. It is absurd.


Depending on the quality of service you have a point

20% is not absurd for excellent service. Particularly when the cost of your food is already subsidized by low wages. If you think that the cost of your food isn't subsidized by lower wages then your issue should be with the pricing on the menu. Some places are objectively overpriced for the quality of the food and atmosphere.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136850 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:27 am to
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Powerman
How about this? How about I offer the gratuity for the food. For the $100 bottle of wine that I order and pick out myself (knowing there already a crazy markup on restaurant alcohol)....i will just leave that out of consideration
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
34956 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:32 am to
So you're cool with paying 3.5x the original price for a bottle of wine but you can't tip your server a few bucks for providing service?

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:33 am to
He isn't smart
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136850 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:33 am to
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but you can't tip your server a few bucks for providing service?
$4 to walk it over and open and pour. I guess so. $20? I don't think so.....
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