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re: Waco Biker Update: Autopsy Reports Released... Finally
Posted on 8/14/15 at 8:47 am to Bama and Beer
Posted on 8/14/15 at 8:47 am to Bama and Beer
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Asking for my wife
Why? Does she go around fricking random bikers?
Sucks to be you.
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Posted on 8/14/15 at 8:48 am to MrLarson
quote:I think so. Just need to know what I'm looking at in regards to the sloppy seconds
Why? Does she go around fricking random bikers?
Posted on 8/14/15 at 8:49 am to Bama and Beer
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I think so.
Then it's probably not happening. Trust me, when your woman is getting plowed by a road warrior, you KNOW.
Posted on 8/14/15 at 8:56 am to Bama and Beer
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Does a certain patch equate to a certain penis size?
Asking for my wife
No. But some clubs to have patches that denotes the wearer for having taken part in certain sexual acts. The Mogols MC has a series of wing patches who's color tells what that person has done:
Red wings: gone down on a woman having her period.
Blue wings: gone down on a lady cop
Yellow wings: gone down on an Asian woman
Brown wings: gone down on a black woman
They have other colors as well but those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.
Posted on 8/14/15 at 8:57 am to Bama and Beer
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I think so
Are you going to tell the bikers wife? So many threads could be merged into one right now.
Posted on 8/14/15 at 8:59 am to Darth_Vader
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No. But some clubs to have patches that denotes the wearer for having taken part in certain sexual acts. The Mogols MC has a series of wing patches who's color tells what that person has done:
Red wings: gone down on a woman having her period.
Blue wings: gone down on a lady cop
Yellow wings: gone down on an Asian woman
Brown wings: gone down on a black woman
They have other colors as well but those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.
I don't get the culture. SMH. That doesn't mean I think what happened in Waco isnt fricked up. I hope the tapes released really shed light on a situation that doesn't make a lot of sense.
Posted on 8/14/15 at 9:00 am to Darth_Vader
I have green wings!
Gone done on a vegetarian.
Posted on 8/14/15 at 9:01 am to Darth_Vader
Are these copper jacketed rounds bad? I am not a gun enthusiast so I wouldn't know.
Posted on 8/14/15 at 9:02 am to MrLarson
There is such a thing as guilt by association. This was a sanctioned club event. It was a brawl that resulted in injuries and death, even before the cops attacked. It just seems like procedure to arrest everyone involved, then sort it out later..
Posted on 8/14/15 at 9:06 am to Kracka
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Are these copper jacketed rounds bad? I am not a gun enthusiast so I wouldn't know.
They're the most common types of rounds used by both civilians and law enforcement alike. I do find it odd they did not identify the caliber of the rounds as this is a fairly simple process. supposedly the ATF is doing the ballistics report from the shootout but for some odd reason, almost three months later that report has yet to come out.
Right now, from what little the autopsy reports tells us, the two things that I find most troubling is that almost all of the victims were shot in the back and were not shot at close range. If, as we were told by the Waco PD most of these guys were killed fighting other bikers, the gunshot wounds should have been from the front and at close range.
Posted on 8/14/15 at 9:09 am to brmark70816
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There is such a thing as guilt by association. This was a sanctioned club event. It was a brawl that resulted in injuries and death, even before the cops attacked. It just seems like procedure to arrest everyone involved, then sort it out later..
I can understand detaining everyone there long enough to sort out who did what and who was or was not involved. But the Waco PD went overboard and just arrested virtually everyone there, irregardless if they were in a "outlaw" club, "mom & pop" club, or independent. And on top of that they charged them all with a felony using "fill in the blank" warrants they took before a justice of the peace who's not even a real judge or even has any legal training. This JOP then place $1,000,000 bonds on them all.
Posted on 8/14/15 at 9:13 am to Darth_Vader
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Right now, from what little the autopsy reports tells us, the two things that I find most troubling is that almost all of the victims were shot in the back and were not shot at close range. If, as we were told by the Waco PD most of these guys were killed fighting other bikers, the gunshot wounds should have been from the front and at close range.
Right, I agree. What little I know about his thing, weren't the cops up on an embankment when they were shooting at the bikers? I could have sworn that one or a few of the shots I saw of this place, that that some of the surrounding surface roads were a high elevation than the twin peaks place.
Posted on 8/14/15 at 9:18 am to Kracka
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Right, I agree. What little I know about his thing, weren't the cops up on an embankment when they were shooting at the bikers? I could have sworn that one or a few of the shots I saw of this place, that that some of the surrounding surface roads were a high elevation than the twin peaks place.
I believe you're right. There was an elevated embankment around the parking lot that was between the bikers and the cops. And from what I've seen and read about the shootout, the bikers themselves who were fighting were all clustered together so any of them shooting at another biker would have been doing so at virtually point blank range.
ETA: Here's a pic of the crime scene.
The cops were in the Don Carlos parking lot when the fight started. The fight took place right in front of the front door at Twin Peaks. You can see the embankment that separated the two parking lots.
Here's another view that shows the embankment a bit more clearly.
This post was edited on 8/14/15 at 9:27 am
Posted on 8/14/15 at 9:52 am to Darth_Vader
Just curious as to why you would leave all these facts about the autopsies out of your OP? It's not in your link either
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The autopsies showed that at least four of the nine victims had illegal drugs in their system when they died, but offer no indication about whether the nine were killed by other bikers or by police.
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A firearms examiner would need physical evidence, including bullets and bullet casings, to make a determination about the firearms used,
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—Daniel Boyett, 44, was shot twice in the head and once in the abdomen, and had trace amounts of methamphetamine in his system.
—Wayne Lee Campbell, 43, died from a gunshot wound to the head.
—Richard Matthew Jordan, 31, suffered one gunshot wound to the head, and tested positive for marijuana on a blood test.
—Richard Vincent Kirschner Jr., 47, was shot three times, and toxicology tests found traces of cocaine and alcohol.
—Jacob Rhyne, 39, died of gunshot wounds to the neck and abdomen.
—Jesus Rodriguez, 65, died from gunshot wounds to the head and trunk.
—Manuel Rodriguez, 40, died of gunshot wounds to the head and back.
—Charles Wayne Russell, 46, was shot once in the chest, and tested positive for marijuana.
—Matthew Smith, 27, was shot in the back and in the abdomen.
Posted on 8/14/15 at 10:00 am to tgrbaitn08
Are you trying to justify the shootings because of someone having drugs in their system?
Posted on 8/14/15 at 10:01 am to tgrbaitn08
Vanilla dindu nuffins
Posted on 8/14/15 at 10:02 am to Swoopin
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It is so like you to take a #blacklivematter type interest in this story.
He's Darth Vader the ultimate in the future Biker.
Posted on 8/14/15 at 10:03 am to MrLarson
nope, just pointing out some facts that all the news stories are reporting which Darth and the Aging Rebel are leaving out.
Posted on 8/14/15 at 10:08 am to tgrbaitn08
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Just curious as to why you would leave all these facts about the autopsies out of your OP? It's not in your link either
I simply quoted what was in the article I linked. As for the guys having drugs in their system. I don't personally do any drugs but I also don't think having drugs in their system gave the cops a green light to just execute them in the street.
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A firearms examiner would need physical evidence, including bullets and bullet casings, to make a determination about the firearms used
They've got all of those. And they've had them for three fricking months now.
This post was edited on 8/14/15 at 10:11 am
Posted on 8/14/15 at 10:09 am to Darth_Vader
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cops a green light to just execute them in the street.
link?
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