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re: Video of a lawyer being busted mid-hearing for using ChatGPT to write briefs
Posted on 8/24/25 at 3:08 pm to Obtuse1
Posted on 8/24/25 at 3:08 pm to Obtuse1
I can tell you Weatlaw AI in the "summary" gave me the direct opposite of the holding it referenced twice. I use it for what it is, a place to point me in the right direction.
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 3:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
AI writes incredibly well but being an old lawyer I thought you were supposed to always check your cites? Westlaw and Lexus used to get shite completely wrong too. Usually completely having the ruling you need reversed from what you cited for some reason so this is nothing new.
I alway review and print out any key cited cases and give them to the Court in a highlighted version at the hearing. (I don’t give a FF about that tree bullshite) When I was a better lawyer I would attach to the highlighted cases with a complete list of all cites etc, particularly in state court where u may have one law clerk for 3-4 judges.
How much are they billing for this AI work? Lol
I alway review and print out any key cited cases and give them to the Court in a highlighted version at the hearing. (I don’t give a FF about that tree bullshite) When I was a better lawyer I would attach to the highlighted cases with a complete list of all cites etc, particularly in state court where u may have one law clerk for 3-4 judges.
How much are they billing for this AI work? Lol
Posted on 8/24/25 at 3:44 pm to TutHillTiger
How do y'all circulate the actual opinions? Like as a courtesy copy to the clerk? You're not filing them as exhibits, right?
Posted on 8/24/25 at 3:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You mean PDFs right?
Nope, dead tree hard copies. They send it to the copy room on PDF with a note that says it is case/code for Mr. Obtuse, and there is one particular copy clerk who knows exactly how I like it.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 4:45 pm to Jebadeb
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Pretty simple soultion though. Either don't use it or verify what it gives you. It's extremely easy to find 99% of cases cited if you have a legal research program (if they are real).
Yes. I use it to find a statute I can't remember or to suggest a couple cases, and THEN I go look up the statute and cases.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 5:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
How do you spend so much time on here as a lawyer??
Posted on 8/26/25 at 12:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
You’re an inanimate fricking object!
Posted on 8/26/25 at 1:02 pm to NotoriousFSU
I love the 2-day old bump coming in hot getting the reference 
Posted on 8/26/25 at 11:19 pm to StringedInstruments
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What’s especially concerning to me is the research that’s come out about the impact on the brain when using AI too much.
shite just look at TD. There are more than a few posters here who used to be normal and have willfully turned themselves into a nothing more than a LLM conduit.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 11:23 pm to Obtuse1
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ETA I forgot to add the crazy part of the Utah case was the respondents attorneys never brought the fake cases up.
Lol imagine you're a client and not only is your opposition using fake cases to argue their side, your own attorney never even realized it. I bet that feels great when the monthly bill hits the desk.
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