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Posted on 1/24/24 at 5:40 pm to Grassy1
RFK, Jr is a medical researcher? Damn, I never knew.
I can remember when research proved that red kool aid caused autism. However I did not stay at a holiday inn last night. I do have a degree in Biochemistry so that probably disqualifies me.
I can remember when research proved that red kool aid caused autism. However I did not stay at a holiday inn last night. I do have a degree in Biochemistry so that probably disqualifies me.
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 1/24/24 at 5:47 pm to Howyouluhdat
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You aren’t capable of thinking by yourself
Please bitch. You claimed to know about medical education, but you clearly don't. You just regurgitated nonsense over and over. That's about your ceiling though. I'll work on a vaccine for you so you aren't so much of a dumbass little guy.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:05 pm to crazy4lsu
Cases increased 4 fold from 7/1,000 in 2000 to 28/1,000 in 2020.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:08 pm to ticklechain
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Aluminum
Causes dementia
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:18 pm to MeridianDog
I will admit they gave me the plague vaccine in basic. Turned me into a killing machine.
“I wanna be an Airborne Ranger. I wanna live a life of danger. I wanna go to Viet Nam. I wanna kill old Charlie Kong. Up the hill, over the hill. Airborne .. Rangers, Airborne .. Rangers.” I never sang that until after the third day of basic, when they shot that plague vaccine into my right arm.
“I wanna be an Airborne Ranger. I wanna live a life of danger. I wanna go to Viet Nam. I wanna kill old Charlie Kong. Up the hill, over the hill. Airborne .. Rangers, Airborne .. Rangers.” I never sang that until after the third day of basic, when they shot that plague vaccine into my right arm.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:20 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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LSUAngelHere1
You still able to get some from your frick boy Casen?
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:40 pm to crazy4lsu
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Please bitch.
lol Rustled jimmies pumpkin?
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You claimed to know about medical education
Never once posted this. I go off of first hand experience which is what we call proof here on Earth.
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You just regurgitated nonsense over and over.
How ironic coming from a medical “professional”
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I'll work on a vaccine for you
I think we’re good but you go save the world one useless vaccine at a time nerd
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:54 pm to Grassy1
I don't know enough about this topic to give an opinion, but I do plan on voting for RFK if his name is on the ballot.
When I was in school, I am pretty sur I had a few autistic kids in my class. I was in the "accelerated" classes and there were two kids I remember specifically because I went to school with them for most of my grade school career.
One was a girl who would all of a sudden throw a fit. If she made anything less than a B on a test she would go nuts and fall on the floor and cry. And sometimes try to hit people.
Then there was this boy who would freak out. And everyone would laugh at him and he would get madder and madder and hold his breath. I remember some years I had to sit buy him and if I made a higher score on my test I used to sing something like "I got a better score.. score.. Because I know more.. more" although he usually would get almost perfects on most of his test, the few times I would do that when I had a higher score he would go nuts, start crying.. His face would get really red.. I actually thought about this awhile back..
My point is.. Do we have more autistic kids or are more being diagnosed. Because back the we just thought they were nuts. but without a doubt if it was today they would be considered autistic.
When I was in school, I am pretty sur I had a few autistic kids in my class. I was in the "accelerated" classes and there were two kids I remember specifically because I went to school with them for most of my grade school career.
One was a girl who would all of a sudden throw a fit. If she made anything less than a B on a test she would go nuts and fall on the floor and cry. And sometimes try to hit people.
Then there was this boy who would freak out. And everyone would laugh at him and he would get madder and madder and hold his breath. I remember some years I had to sit buy him and if I made a higher score on my test I used to sing something like "I got a better score.. score.. Because I know more.. more" although he usually would get almost perfects on most of his test, the few times I would do that when I had a higher score he would go nuts, start crying.. His face would get really red.. I actually thought about this awhile back..
My point is.. Do we have more autistic kids or are more being diagnosed. Because back the we just thought they were nuts. but without a doubt if it was today they would be considered autistic.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:55 pm to crazy4lsu
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You'll have to convince me that the vaccination side effect profile is far, far greater than the illness side effect profile for me to even consider changing that approach.
Then maybe you will agree that the effects of vaccines on all cause mortality and morbidity should be studied rather than only the target disease in order to learn the true net benefit vs harm?
Honest question - is there any number of vaccines that you feel would be too many?
Can you agree that there is much about the human immune system that is not well understood? If so, why is it unreasonable for people to question the wisdom of altering it with ever increasing amounts of recommended vaccinations?
Posted on 1/24/24 at 6:59 pm to OweO
quote:More child mental heath practitioners as well. Many lazy diagnosticians. Bad behavior? ADHD or Bipolar. Bad behavior and a bit odd, Autism spectrum.
more being diagnosed
Posted on 1/24/24 at 7:03 pm to idsrdum
quote:Because they question it with little to no knowledge save for what they read on sensationalist websites. They respond with anger and absolutes sprinkled with looney things like 33% of the people who took the vaccine will die in the near future. Their minds are made up.
If so, why is it unreasonable for people to question the wisdom of altering it with ever increasing amounts of recommended vaccinations?
Posted on 1/24/24 at 7:39 pm to momentoftruth87
Why are all you millennials such jackasses?
How about this… Thanks a-hole.
How about this… Thanks a-hole.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 8:55 pm to RoscoeSanCarlos
no , percentages in non vaccinated populations like amish are the same.
the reason for the rise in numbers is because the diagnosis has changed
per my wife a pediatric occupational therapist
the reason for the rise in numbers is because the diagnosis has changed
per my wife a pediatric occupational therapist
Posted on 1/24/24 at 10:10 pm to idsrdum
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Then maybe you will agree that the effects of vaccines on all cause mortality and morbidity should be studied rather than only the target disease in order to learn the true net benefit vs harm?
I would need something far more specific than all-cause mortality. Because that avoids the context of devastating diseases. It’s a catch-all term skeptics have used to try to undermine vaccine discussions without actually going into anything specific. It’s very boring and not very meaningful by itself.
I personally think vaccine skeptics want to study vaccines to just to prove some oblique harm rather than admit that they are good at doing what they aim to do.
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Honest question - is there any number of vaccines that you feel would be too many?
No. Why is there an obsession with a particular number? Your body can handle lots of pyrogenic and pathogenic material and does so literally every moment you are alive.
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Can you agree that the is much about the human immune system that is not well understood?
Our understanding in the last four years has grown by several orders of magnitude. We also undertake interventions that are less well-understood because they help people. Do you want to do this for everything in medicine? We are never going to have a perfect understanding.
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If so, why is it unreasonable for people to question the wisdom of altering it with ever increasing amounts of recommended vaccinations?
Because generally you (as in the skeptics) don’t have a solid basis upon which we can have a discussion, nor do you have specific evidence. It’s always ‘let’s study this more’ sort of placating that achieves anti-vaxxers aims while not holding them to the same standards. It feels like a purposeful effort to obfuscate rather than actually learn.
I mean, I’ve read pretty much every link, answered every question, etc., that you have had over the last four years and I’m not sure it has even had an effect. On the whole, it has convinced me there is a certain futility engaging in a lay public which is hellbent on a specific viewpoint.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:43 pm to crazy4lsu
All cause mortality is meaningless and very boring? Unlimited vaccines?
Hellbent on a specific viewpoint indeed.
I believe it's important to hear a lot of different perspectives on the subject. I especially appreciate the vaccine proponents, like Christine Stabell Benn and Geert Vanden Bossche, that are willing to discuss the potential harms of vaccines.
Hellbent on a specific viewpoint indeed.
I believe it's important to hear a lot of different perspectives on the subject. I especially appreciate the vaccine proponents, like Christine Stabell Benn and Geert Vanden Bossche, that are willing to discuss the potential harms of vaccines.
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:43 pm to crazy4lsu
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I would need something far more specific than all-cause mortality.
Yeah. The all-cause mortality difference at 150 years is zero between the two groups. I don’t need a study to tell me that.
What time period would all cause mortality be a useful statistic for, and why would it be a useful statistic in that setting? If you can’t predict with explanation prior to looking for correlation, then you aren’t particularly likely to find useful information to draw conclusions from.
Or in other words,
I would need to be pretty retarded to draw a conclusion based on this correlation because there’s no scientific basis for it. And finding it doesn’t mean that it’s useful. If I can tell you why a correlation existing would be useful to find, then look for it and find it, then maybe there’s something worth looking into.
Also, my two fun autism/vaccine stories:
Andrew Wakefield was an adult gastroenterologist who subjected children that he recruited at a birthday party to tests including lumbar punctures and colonoscopies. He filed a patent for a new measles vaccine himself (not implicating vaccines as the problem, but specifically the MMR which he wanted to patent a new vaccine for). Without his paper, the ‘controversy’ over the two things (vaccines, autism) would not exist in its current state (until, of course, someone else with terrible ethics pulled the same manipulative stunt that he did eventually or in some other way).
2) I have a (physician) friend with an autistic child. During a subsequent pregnancy, she received the COVID vaccine. The child she was pregnant for at that time (who is also up to date on other vaccines) does not have autism.
Takeaway? Correlation and causation aren’t the same thing. And case studies aren’t useful until there’s several that show the same thing (and then that same thing is later validated by watching some number of people eventually develop the same thing when other factors are controlled for).
Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:14 am to Grassy1
I'm on the fence... I feel too many vaccines at one time can't be good, however I'm torn! I feel our children should be vaccinated against so many diseases that can rear their ugly heads, like polio. What should we do? It truly is scary. My daughter has an 8 month old and she is opting not to vaccinate and I'm so leery. How do we have so many autistic children these days? I feel it could be other factors too. How about the diet of the mother during pregnancy, how about plastics, other factors...I could go on and on.
I'm an oncology nurse and I've seen the increase in multiple myeloma since my career started and I always said Tupperware and microwaves was the death of us.
I'm an oncology nurse and I've seen the increase in multiple myeloma since my career started and I always said Tupperware and microwaves was the death of us.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:15 am to Evil Little Thing
If vaccinations cause autism, then everyone ever vaccinated would have autism.
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