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Posted on 8/21/21 at 6:06 am to Strannix
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A scholarly study and article from the University of Wisconsin and Scripps is fear propaganda???? Ok
Maybe I’m wrong but it seems many are scared to get the vaccine.
I’m exhausted from trying to convince my rheumatology patients (who are mostly immunocompromised) to get vaccinated though thankfully most have. Fear is their number 1 reason not to get it and it’s largely based on misinformation.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 6:06 am to Oilfieldbiology
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The vilification of these vaccines despite hundreds of millions of people receiving it already and the objective, observable results boggles my mind.
You mean the results like the vaccinated having to wear their masks again? The vaccinated shedding the virus? The vaccinated getting sick. Again?
It’s mind boggling that some people can’t wrap their mind around the idea that much of what we were told a year ago about these vaccines (as well as what we weren’t told) is proving to be wrong or untrue. And that in addition to the mishandling of this entire event by officials at all levels has resulted in massive distrust of them and everything they say.
We are, in essence, learning as we go with these vaccines. That’s a pretty good reason not to want to take it. We know what they do and don’t do six to eight months post inoculation. We don’t know shite about what they’re gonna do five years later.
But now we know for sure you’re gonna have to keep
Getting them around every six to eight months. That’s not very incentivizing.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 6:11 am to Strannix
Vaccinated people are less likely to become infected. Once they become infected they spread it just like everyone else. They are also less likely to be hospitalized or die from it. This isn’t new information.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 6:12 am to tigerinthebueche
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But now we know for sure you’re gonna have to keep Getting them around every six to eight months. That’s not very incentivizing.
Because the spike protein antibodies are out of your system, which is why the concern about 5 years down the road should not be an issue.
But you make a great point about mistrust in our leaders.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 6:15 am to fightin tigers
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You have to have it to use it. In a lot of cases the medicine isn't available in the volumes we think it is.
Fair enough. But there doesn’t appear to be any push or even willingness to push for alternatives or faster production of alternatives. We are singularly focused on vaccinations. Why? Why is it that THATS the only option when it’s obvious that’s gonna be the most difficult to accomplish?
Posted on 8/21/21 at 6:18 am to tigerinthebueche
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But I am suggesting that the common practice of sending people home without any of the treatments that seem to help ( like Regeneron) needs to be re-examined. Maybe- just maybe- if they treated the symptoms more aggressively early on, the disease wouldn’t progress to the point it requires hospitalization and hospitals wouldn’t be “overwhelmed”.
I have never argued otherwise. I fact I’ve argued the exact opposite. What I was simply stating is that that people yelling from the rooftops that the vaccine isn’t effective completely ignore
1. That it appears less likely to catch Covid if you’re vaccinated
2. That you’re less likely to have symptoms
3. You’re less likely to be hospitalized
Posted on 8/21/21 at 6:19 am to tigerinthebueche
Probably because the vaccines are readily available and were fast tracked. Also the vaccine seems to have extremely good results.
The antibody therapy is coming, but stuff like Regeneron was in phase 3 around March.
People who aren't getting the vaccine wanting to get the experimental antibody therapy is mind boggling.
The antibody therapy is coming, but stuff like Regeneron was in phase 3 around March.
People who aren't getting the vaccine wanting to get the experimental antibody therapy is mind boggling.
This post was edited on 8/21/21 at 6:20 am
Posted on 8/21/21 at 6:19 am to tigerinthebueche
quote:Because it’s always preferable to prevent the disease rather than treat it after infection
Fair enough. But there doesn’t appear to be any push or even willingness to push for alternatives or faster production of alternatives. We are singularly focused on vaccinations. Why? Why is it that THATS the only option when it’s obvious that’s gonna be the most difficult to accomplish?
This post was edited on 8/21/21 at 6:20 am
Posted on 8/21/21 at 6:24 am to tigerinthebueche
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THATS the only option when it’s obvious that’s gonna be the most difficult to accomplish?
Not difficult, impossible, only the very low IQ or ignorant would have ever believed a rapidly mutsting respiratory infection with an animal reservoir would be eliminated through a "vaccine" that isnt a vaccine.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 6:24 am to JudgeHolden
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You might be missing the part where the vaccinated don’t die.
Yet
Posted on 8/21/21 at 6:25 am to fightin tigers
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Also the vaccine seems to have extremely good results.
Other than keeping the vulnerable from dying its been an abject failure judging from the basis it was advertised at.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 6:26 am to diat150
On a long enough time line, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 6:26 am to Kato
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Because the spike protein antibodies are out of your system, which is why the concern about 5 years down the road should not be an issue
But we don’t know that do we? And does that hold true when you keep getting boosters every six months? Nor do we know what effect it will have on other systems or how it will
React to other illnesses and diseases. We think we know. That’s a pretty good reason to be hesitant if you’re under 70 and not among the most vulnerable.
People went out and got vaccinated because they wanted to be safer and get “ back to normal”. That’s what they were told would happen. Now we’re finding out that’s not true. What else have we been told that isn’t true amid all the misinformation and shifting of goals? What else don’t we know about?
All good reasons to be skeptical and decide for yourself. But, by God, that’s just not gonna be allowed apparently. Why?
Posted on 8/21/21 at 6:28 am to Strannix
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Other than keeping the vulnerable from dying its been an abject failure judging from the basis it was advertised at.
Not sure what you think it was advertised as.
They knew there would be breakthrough cases, hence wearing the mask after vaccinated. Which people flipped out about.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 6:28 am to OneMoreTime
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Because it’s always preferable to prevent the disease rather than treat it after infection
But it’s not preventing it. Hell, it looks like it’s facilitating it
Posted on 8/21/21 at 6:29 am to fightin tigers
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They knew there would be breakthrough cases, hence wearing the mask after vaccinated. Which people flipped out about.
That’s not what we were told
Posted on 8/21/21 at 6:30 am to tigerinthebueche
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People went out and got vaccinated because they wanted to be safer and get “ back to normal”
Those people could be back to normal if it wasn't for the unvaccinated. Instead the good have to suffer for the bad, as is life.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 6:31 am to fightin tigers
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Those people could be back to normal if it wasn't for the unvaccinated. Instead the good have to suffer for the bad, as is life.
You just confirmed that shitty reading comprehension is a side effect of the vaccine.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 6:32 am to tigerinthebueche
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That’s not what we were told
Do you remember them advertising 100% efficacy?
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