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re: Utah to drop blood alcohol limit to .05

Posted on 12/18/18 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by xxGEAUXxx
minneapolis
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 3:56 pm to
Should a driver who blows .06 or .07 and shows signs of impairment during the SFST’s be arrested?
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20063 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:57 pm to
Alcohol is trashy
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:58 pm to
Alcohol is for heathens.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
11851 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 5:00 pm to
How about we do something that will actually help, like stop people from using their phones while driving?
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
35746 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 5:02 pm to
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Utah to drop blood alcohol limit to .05


Next, they'll force you to eat a full meal while drinking instead of just something.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3014 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 5:07 pm to
A driver that blows a .02% can be arrested for failing a field sobriety test today, the 0.08% threshold only sets the point where a crime has been committed no matter what.

Lowering the threshold to 0.05% lowers the point where a crime has automatically occurred, regardless of the circumstances. It was always a crime to blow a 0.06% and stumble through a field sobriety test.

So, this law reducing the threshold specifically targets those who would blow a .06% but still pass a sobriety test.
Posted by xxGEAUXxx
minneapolis
Member since Dec 2012
1055 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 5:25 pm to
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How about we do something that will actually help, like stop people from using their phones while driving?


Most states it’s against the law. It’s like drinking and driving. People will always do it. I believe using your phone should be one of the heftier fines and punishments.
Posted by xxGEAUXxx
minneapolis
Member since Dec 2012
1055 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 5:26 pm to
I agree. I don’t believe the .05 will stick for a long time.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
11851 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 5:31 pm to
So this new law is unfairly targeting the thin.
Posted by 2Dueces
Hell
Member since Dec 2018
186 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 6:43 pm to
Just legalize pot. I’d never drink again if they’d legalize it.
Posted by crazyatthecamp
Member since Nov 2006
2099 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 8:49 pm to
Riots in Wisconsin if they tried this
Posted by LSUERDOC
Member since Jul 2013
2608 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 7:05 am to
Like I said, it wasn't me. It was a colleague. He blew 0.00 on the PBT. Cop still says he was under the influence and arrested him. Cop said he was trained to detect when someone is high on weed. The dude has never smoked weed in his life.
He eventually cleared his name but he had to spend over $15k doing it...all because a police officer's opinion.
Posted by LSUERDOC
Member since Jul 2013
2608 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 7:10 am to
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BAC under .08 account for roughly 5% of deaths per year, or approximately 2000. Which is a small number in the big picture. But none the less 2000 too many.


There is no way to prove that ETOH contributed to these deaths. I bet that the majority of these crashes would have happened without it.
Posted by LSUERDOC
Member since Jul 2013
2608 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 7:31 am to
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In other words, these people - by the police's own admission - were perfectly OK to drive but still subject to arrest for being above the new .05 limit.


You can bet your arse that they performed studies on the increase in revenue that this law change would generate...which is the sole impetus behind the change. It has ZERO to do with public safety and everything to do with greed.
Posted by LSUERDOC
Member since Jul 2013
2608 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 7:38 am to
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Should a driver who blows .06 or .07 and shows signs of impairment during the SFST’s be arrested?


No, but have them get a ride home or have someone else come drive their car...once you pull them over and PBT/FST them and decide that they are impaired, then you are obligated to prevent them from driving.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 12/19/18 at 7:45 am to
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If the citizens of Utah are for it, I don’t see a problem.
The citizens of Utah have no say in it. The governor and legislature sold out to the insurance company lobbyists and the DUI attorney lobbyists.

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How about we do something that will actually help, like stop people from using their phones while driving?
MUCH bigger problem
This post was edited on 12/19/18 at 7:51 am
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