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Posted on 3/12/15 at 6:51 pm to chesty
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You damn near had no job, no pay, and no benefits. A raise don't mean shite if you don't have a job
This is your argument? We "damn near" had no job. How so?
Posted on 3/12/15 at 6:52 pm to chesty
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I had people who work at Norco calling me to ask if I'd ask my dad if he could help place them. They were hurting for money. No income might as well mean no job.
So your Daddy got you a job? Makes sense.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 6:59 pm to Calhoun570
Doesnt the contract always have raises in it.. Didnt think that was ever in question.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 7:01 pm to jimjackandjose
First proposal was 0 0 0
Posted on 3/12/15 at 7:05 pm to Calhoun570
Link and. Werent te union guys basically saying always go in with ridiculous demands and meet in the middle?
Does the nee contract include bck pay?
Does the nee contract include bck pay?
Posted on 3/12/15 at 7:07 pm to Calhoun570
In the end, nothing will pay off for Union scum.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 7:10 pm to Calhoun570
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First proposal was 0 0 0
And the union's first proposal was 6/6/6. I'm pretty sure everyone expected they would meet in the middle.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 7:11 pm to TigeRoots
I can't wait to read/have read already on how the Union got them pay raises and how they helped them out.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 7:18 pm to MeatHammer09
Will only take 10 years to come out ahead on those raises now
Posted on 3/12/15 at 7:21 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Idiots
Posted on 3/12/15 at 7:22 pm to Fusaichi Pegasus
You ever update the creepy story thread?
Posted on 3/12/15 at 7:25 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Gotta always have a backup plan. I won't be doing this again in 4yrs. 
Posted on 3/12/15 at 7:26 pm to MeatHammer09
So what are all of the safety ramifications that this stick-up was about?
Posted on 3/12/15 at 7:30 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
As I understand it, they wanted overtime, got overtime, and then turned around and bitched about having to work too many hrs. Typical union bullshite. I hope they hamstring the frick out of these guys on hrs and tightly restrict them to no more than 2080 hrs per year and let the non union operators have all the OT.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 7:30 pm to jimjackandjose
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Doesnt the contract always have raises in it.. Didnt think that was ever in question.
And up until this contract they always had the retrogression clause, which from what I was told was a huge sticking point, and one that I actually agreed with.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 7:35 pm to brass2mouth
Explain this retrogression clause
Posted on 3/12/15 at 7:35 pm to brass2mouth
The retrogression clause wasn't the issue. The USW wanted a hand in the industries hiring process of maintenance crafts(more dues of course). Shell then said well if you don't want to take the issue with the maintenance crafts off the table we will play hard ball. The union used that to play the no retrogression clause propaganda. It has always been in there and always will be if the union plays fair.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 7:36 pm to MeatHammer09
Cant wait to hear all the scabs bitch about nobody wants anything to do with them!!
Posted on 3/12/15 at 7:37 pm to MeatHammer09
Retrogression is basically everything that has previously been agreed upon in past contracts. They just carryover to the next contract.
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