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re: USA will have Socialized Medicine in 20 Years - It's Inevitable
Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
You already pay a medical tax called insurance anyway why does it matter to you? Oh wait because you can’t come at me with a legitimate argument so you just scream taxes or lol frick people who don’t have insurance
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:08 pm to dawgfan24348
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There are millions of people without insurance
There are millions who have insurance, and millions who have gotten insurance.
You have Obamacare to leach off the taxpayer. Use it.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:09 pm to dawgfan24348
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Oh wait because you can’t come at me with a legitimate argument
You can't understand basic economics, what makes you think you'll understand insurance?
Would you be happy with a public option for you poor folks?
Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
First off I have a job with insurance, but I also know how fricked it is that plenty of people go into debt every year because of our broken system. I know that insurance companies consistently frick people over but you’re here happily taking whatever the insurance companies will give you
This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:11 pm to dawgfan24348
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Ah yes the ole frick you if you’re poor or don’t have a job that offers insurance argument truly makes you look like a profound and understanding individual
Hey look pal, if those lazy senior citizens can't afford supplemental coverage beyond Medicare or copays, then they can just hop right back into the workforce. Nothing is stopping them!
Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:11 pm to kennypowers
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What I am suggesting is there is an ongoing arms race between the providers and insurance companies to raise prices to get the ultimate price they need to cover costs.....which, again, is a nonsensical charade.
Providers have almost no say or control over what they are paid. I'm not sure how you think they do.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:13 pm to dawgfan24348
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but I also know how fricked it is that plenty of people go into debt every year because of our broken system.
Debt is a part of life, get used to it
I have had cancer since 2015, I deal with this stuff every day. You're not entitled to have the taxpayer cover your medical expenses, nor force people to provide you labor.
You're just a very simple ideologue.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:13 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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can't understand basic economics, what makes you think you'll understand insuranc
I understand basic economics just fine, I also have countless examples of nations making UHC work and not frick up the economy. You just want to ignore any facts I actually provide and just repeat the same shite over and over.
Also I do find it funny that the guy who runs off anytime I ask him to define socialism/communism claims someone else doesn’t understand economics
Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:13 pm to dawgfan24348
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I understand basic economics just fine
Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:13 pm to dawgfan24348
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It seems like I did but you just want to fish for the answer you want. Currently there’s no reason to believe it would go up
So you're telling me that if the government takes over healthcare, you think they'll run it as efficiently as it is now?
Would you like to look at college tuition costs after the governments guaranteed student loans to see what will happen? Or maybe look at medicare/medicaid fraud? Or maybe look at how much fraud has been found just in the covid relief packages?
This idea that we can compare the systems of other countries to the the US is laughable. We have a completely different culture filled with glut, waste, and fraud and the only reason we can currently get away with it is because of the dollar being the universal currency around the world.
You're talking about adding on at least $4 trillion a year to the budget. And that cost will skyrocket once the government takes over. Especially when you factor in shite like the unfettered waves of people coming to this country that you champion and encourage.
You live in a fantasy world like the rest of your progressive buddies.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:15 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
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If they made laws to cut hospitals from making unnecessary costs
Please explain to me exactly what this means and how hospitals are getting money from this.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:15 pm to upgrayedd
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you think they'll run it as efficiently as it is now?
The ONLY program the gubment has run with success is the military, and they have to overspend incredibly to make that happen.
Rationing and shortages will soon follow.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:16 pm to upgrayedd
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You're talking about adding on at least $4 trillion a year to the budget
He doesn't realize he will be the one footing the bill. He thinks "rich people" will be doing it, because Bernie said so.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Debt is a part of life,
It is but if a country can prevent its people from experiencing certain types of debt which in turn hurts the economy then it probably should
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You're not entitled to have the taxpayer cover your medical expenses
You do realize how insurance works right? And hey man with that logic why should our taxes go to anything? Why should the tax payers be expected to pay for a road you use? Or a public bathroom you use? Come on bro pay for your own shite
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You're just a very simple ideologue.
Projection is a common trait of yours
Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Are the taxpayers going to cover R&D?
rofl this guy thinks private health insurance companies are funding medical research and development
Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:17 pm to Damone
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rofl this guy thinks private health insurance companies are funding medical research and development
You're illiterate, skippy.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:18 pm to dawgfan24348
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It is but if a country can prevent its people from experiencing certain types of deb
You people..
What happens when government subsidizes debt?
Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:18 pm to upgrayedd
So what I’m hearing is you don’t have any actual reason to believe that we can’t make UHC work other than well this is what you think. And any attempt to deflect this is met with well we’re different? Truly a logical and based argument
Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:19 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Debt is a part of life, get used to it I have had cancer since 2015, I deal with this stuff every day.
"I am honored to constantly be in medical debt and will vehemently defend the very system that causes me to incur such debt"
Literally cucked by the healthcare industry
Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:19 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:The military runs in spite of itself. It's probably the worst run, most inefficient department of the government.
The ONLY program the gubment has run with success is the military, and they have to overspend incredibly to make that happen.
Rationing and shortages will soon follow.
But dawgfan is still more than happy to increase takes by 150% and wait for a year to get a knee replacement because he lives in some sort of ideological never-never land.
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